On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 16:57:20 -0700 (PDT)
E27002 wrote:
On Apr 13, 3:08=A0pm, tony sayer wrote:

Sadly, these US are not adopting the DAB standard. =A0

Aren't you lucky this system is already antique and is based on a ****
poor codec MP2 for broadcast purposes the AAC based DAB + system is far
better like other countries are adopting!..

How easy is it to convert MP2 to AAC? Would users need to replace
their receivers?

Most DAB receivers can't decode AAC so they won't play DAB+ transmissions.

There has to be some good way of using digital technology for Radio.
Digital allows much better use of the spectrum. It can't be rocket
science to implement a good system. We have done it for TV.

No we haven't, vested interests came along and ruined it. Freeview has
been buggered up by putting on so many channels that half of them look like
a live report from Legoland as soon as anyone moves because of the mpeg
blocking artifacts. Even the main BBC channels can't cope with highly
mobile scenes such as running water or sea surf without noticable blocks
appearing in the picture. Compared to a decent PAL transmission it looks
utter ****.

B2003

On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 09:59:23 +0100
"Tim Fenton" wrote:
wrote in message
...

Yes Boltar.

Don't live in north london do you.

If you are asking a question, it is usual to indicate this by the use of a
question mark.

Indeed. Except if you had any braincells to rub together you'd have
realised
the above was a statement.

Missing comma after "together". Must try harder.

None required. Is English your second language?

B2003

In article
s.com, E27002 scribeth thus
On Apr 13, 3:08*pm, tony sayer wrote:

Sadly, these US are not adopting the DAB standard. *

Aren't you lucky this system is already antique and is based on a ****
poor codec MP2 for broadcast purposes the AAC based DAB + system is far
better like other countries are adopting!..

How easy is it to convert MP2 to AAC? Would users need to replace
their receivers?

If their only capable of receiving standard DAB then no, but new
chipset's are around which can handle both formats..

Fraid the whole thing hasn't really been thought through unlike other
past broadcast decisions;(...


Mind you the iBiquity (US) system leaves something to be desired but
thats another argument;!..

There are some
digital over FM and Medium Wave broadcasts. *There are also digital
Satellite services that are subscriber only. *Thus far I have stuck
with analogue FM.

There has to be some good way of using digital technology for Radio.
Digital allows much better use of the spectrum. It can't be rocket
science to implement a good system. We have done it for TV.

Its not really that efficient overall. Especially with the MP2 codec..
--
Tony Sayer

On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 14:01:05 +0100
"Tim Fenton" wrote:
Indeed. Except if you had any braincells to rub together you'd have
realised
the above was a statement.

Missing comma after "together". Must try harder.

None required.

Wrong.

FFS get a life you sad *******. And while you're at it learn English grammar.

B2003

On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 16:32:27 +0100
"Tim Fenton" wrote:
And while you're at it learn English grammar.

Missing comma after "it". g

*guffaw*

Mind you , having had a look at your blog this is probably your best
material.

B2003

On Apr 14, 8:50*am, wrote:
On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 16:32:27 +0100

"Tim Fenton" wrote:
And while you're at it learn English grammar.

Missing comma after "it". g

*guffaw*

Mind you , having had a look at your blog this is probably your best
material.

B2003

Timmy’s blog is pretty dire isn't it? It consists mainly of
regurgitated labour party propaganda. Any original thinking died of
loneliness way back.

Go easy on the boy's English Grammar. He is probably swotting for his
"O" Level. Like all kids he likes to show off what he has learned.

On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 09:07:21 -0700 (PDT)
E27002 wrote:
regurgitated labour party propaganda. Any original thinking died of
loneliness way back.

Heh , I like that phrase , I'll have to remember it

Go easy on the boy's English Grammar. He is probably swotting for his
"O" Level. Like all kids he likes to show off what he has learned.

No wonder his posts are so short.

B2003

On Apr 14, 1:37*am, wrote:
On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 16:57:20 -0700 (PDT)

E27002 wrote:
On Apr 13, 3:08=A0pm, tony sayer wrote:

Sadly, these US are not adopting the DAB standard. =A0

Aren't you lucky this system is already antique and is based on a ****
poor codec MP2 for broadcast purposes the AAC based DAB + system is far
better like other countries are adopting!..

How easy is it to convert MP2 to AAC? *Would users need to replace
their receivers?

Most DAB receivers can't decode AAC so they won't play DAB+ transmissions..

There has to be some good way of using digital technology for Radio.
Digital allows much better use of the spectrum. *It can't be rocket
science to implement a good system. *We have done it for TV.

No we haven't, vested interests came along and ruined it. Freeview has
been buggered up by putting on so many channels that half of them look like
a live report from Legoland as soon as anyone moves because of the mpeg
blocking artifacts. Even the main BBC channels can't cope with highly
mobile scenes such as running water or sea surf without noticable blocks
appearing in the picture. Compared to a decent PAL transmission it looks
utter ****.

B2003

Thanks for sharing. I had no idea. Here in Reno I receive digital TV
thru the Cable system. The quality is outstanding. I don't have a
need to go for Hi Def. I figuered that, if anything, digital quality
in the UK would be better. The old analogue signal was certainly
better in the UK.

On Apr 14, 1:33*am, wrote:
On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 10:53:46 -0700 (PDT)

E27002 wrote:
IMHO it is time to end the pretence of impartiality and allow a free
market of ideas on the UK broadcast spectrum. *This might be a good
election platform for Mr. Cameron. *He might in enjoy considerable
support from Mr. Murdoch.

Unfortunately it seems that most london pirates are in it for the ego trip
and/or a lot are in some way related to organised crime (allegedly). They
all transmit the same sort of urban **** which is already available on a
number of other legit stations already such as Choice FM, KISS, 1Xtra etc..

So we are talking Hip-hop. Each to their own I suppose. But, how
many outlets does a city need for a "music" form where every "song"
sounds the same?

Imagine all those London Towers with legitimate FM transmitters atop!

Imagine all the interference to TV and radio sets for the people living
underneath them.

Well there shouldn't be interference if the job is done properly. I
guess that would be asking a lot.

On Apr 14, 2:23*am, tony sayer wrote:
In article
s.com, E27002 scribeth thus

On Apr 13, 3:08*pm, tony sayer wrote:

Sadly, these US are not adopting the DAB standard. *

Aren't you lucky this system is already antique and is based on a ****
poor codec MP2 for broadcast purposes the AAC based DAB + system is far
better like other countries are adopting!..

How easy is it to convert MP2 to AAC? *Would users need to replace
their receivers?

If their only capable of receiving standard DAB then no, but new
chipset's are around which can handle both formats..

Fraid the whole thing hasn't really been thought through unlike other
past broadcast decisions;(...



Mind you the iBiquity (US) system leaves something to be desired but
thats another argument;!..

There are some
digital over FM and Medium Wave broadcasts. *There are also digital
Satellite services that are subscriber only. *Thus far I have stuck
with analogue FM.

There has to be some good way of using digital technology for Radio.
Digital allows much better use of the spectrum. *It can't be rocket
science to implement a good system. *We have done it for TV.

Its not really that efficient overall. Especially with the MP2 codec.

Then my instinct to stay with FM, and Internet Radio, for the time
being was the correct one. There is no digital system here in these
US that strikes me as a "must have" technology.

Isn't thread drift great? :-)