On Wed, 19 May 2010 08:50:54 -0700 (PDT), "Dr. Sunil"
wrote:

I have a copy of the 1985(?) "Motive Power Recognition: London
Transport and PTE railways", and there do seem to be a number of
yellow painted service vehicles (at least they look yellow despite
being black and white photos!). Some do seem to be darker (maroon?)
however, maybe they were the older ones?

Not necessarily, any complete repaints would have been yellow anyway
with the chance of the oldest vehicles being most in need of one. Some
of the vehicles in older colour schemes were likely to be the most
recent in service before the colour change. The only sure method is to
identify the individual vehicles and verify their build date while
remembering that LT re-used railway vehicle numbers and in some cases
(EMU carriages) exchanged them.

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(Dr. Sunil) wrote:

I have a copy of the 1985(?) "Motive Power Recognition: London
Transport and PTE railways", and there do seem to be a number of
yellow painted service vehicles (at least they look yellow despite
being black and white photos!). Some do seem to be darker (maroon?)
however, maybe they were the older ones?

Crimson Lake was the standard colour for LT service stock before yellow.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

On May 20, 9:49*am, "Tim Fenton" wrote:

Not impressed with the style, b

Its a Prima, and is the current Alstom version of the body of a UK 67.

It is a bit complicated as since 67s were built, Alstom sold off the
Spanish plant to Vossloh, and Vossloh has developed its own styling
and product line, whereas Alstoms' own Belfort plant keeps the Prima
name.

But, it is not too far from the truth to suggest if there were trickle
orders for 67s in the same way that 66s continue[d] to sell, we might
now in 2010 have new 67s built with this ... ummm ... style if Alstom
retained the 67 design rights.

If not, they'd probably look like this

http://www.jernbane.net/db/type.asp?ID=728


although these are freight CoCo - specifically the Euro4000 version
for Norway that will eventually displace the local 66s.

Part of the reason I referred to that site is this page

http://www.jernbane.net/db/type.asp?ID=92

which not only has yellow ends but lower down that bright green ended
thing. I think it possible these days 50 years after BR warning yellow
was introduced that alternative bright colours might be considered as
acceptable warnings. There might have to be some trade off with
different minimum areas for different colours or shades of colours,
but from the safety I don't see what wrong with sunglo orange or lime
green to a right specification. Might look revolting of course.

--
Nick

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D7666 wrote:

... I don't see what wrong with sunglo orange or lime
green to a right specification. Might look revolting of course.

The dayglo pink against orange on IE locos certainly looks (looked?),
erm, shocking.

Sam

D7666 wrote:

On May 1, 8:42*pm, Chris Tolley (ukonline
really) wrote:

On those days when I am out watching the Pendolinos go by, I am
constantly impressed by how quiet they are.

Really ?

Really.

I think they are noisy for what they are, this is from the outside.
They make far more noise passing by than 350s do.

It may depend on where one is. My comment really reflects the fact that
I have missed some photos because I haven't heard them coming. And that
in my mind I was comparing them against Voyagers.

--
http://gallery120232.fotopic.net/p9683620.html
(A class 101 set led by 50315 about to leave Stratford-upon-Avon, 1982)

D7666 wrote:

but from the safety I don't see what wrong with sunglo orange or lime
green to a right specification. Might look revolting of course.

Genuine question: are paint pigments with optical brighteners as
enduring as those without?

--
http://gallery120232.fotopic.net/p12906828.html
(47 628 at Reading, 27 Apr 1985)

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(ukonline really) (Chris Tolley) wrote:

D7666 wrote:

but from the safety I don't see what wrong with sunglo orange or lime
green to a right specification. Might look revolting of course.

Genuine question: are paint pigments with optical brighteners as
enduring as those without?

If the generality is like the orange on the election posters in my window
recently, they fade incredibly quickly!

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Hello!

On 19.05.2010 21:04, D7666 wrote:
Anyway, what I really come on to post was this

http://www.railcolor.net/index.php?n...act ion=image

yes its French - to the unintiated that a Prima, the current Alstom
BoBo electric - and that one is hired through an SNCF associated
leasing outfit called AKIEM to ECR that in turn was owned by EWS hence
now DBS.

Not really current anymore. Alstom has moved to Prima II with a
different styling. They are currently shipping the first series-built
locos - to Morocco:

http://www.railcolor.net/index.php?nav=1406571&lang=1

Perhaps the yellow panels herald operation into UK )

Rather into the Netherlands, I suppose.

Cheers,

Johannes.

On Wed, 26 May 2010 21:01:51 +0200, Johannes Picht
wrote:

Not really current anymore. Alstom has moved to Prima II with a
different styling. They are currently shipping the first series-built
locos - to Morocco:

http://www.railcolor.net/index.php?nav=1406571&lang=1


Ooh ... looks quite cute. ;-)

On May 26, 8:27*pm, Bruce wrote:

http://www.railcolor.net/index.php?nav=1406571&lang=1

Ooh ... looks quite cute. *;-)


IMHO these things are tending towards looking a lot like the same
these days, perhaps this is the impact of TSIs putting so many
engineering limits that the only practical working solution makes them
look the same.


I sort of kind of like this :

http://parovoz.com/newgallery/pg_vie...LNG=EN#picture

which is the latest thing out of China for Uzbekistan, this s one of
the new CoCo in delivery right now, the last lot (the third loco back)
is one of the earlier BoBoBo. Its a fairly simple external layout,
clean apart from that fussy grille on the front end, speculate that
has something to so with cab cooling.

--
Nick