Neil Williams wrote:

On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 08:53:04 -0700 (PDT), Mizter T
wrote:

Perhaps just in time
for the whole system to be abandoned come May!

Really? That's good news.


Yes, anything that leads to the whole stupid Zonal/Oyster system has
got to be a good thing. I don't much like Boris but if he's _finally_
doing something to send Oyster to the bin where in belongs, I'll even
forgive him all that Routemaster nonsense.

On May 1, 10:00*am, Paul Corfield wrote:

On Sat, 1 May 2010 00:14:08 -0700 (PDT), solar penguin
wrote:

Neil Williams wrote:

On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 08:53:04 -0700 (PDT), Mizter T
wrote:
Perhaps just in time
for the whole system to be abandoned come May!

Really? *That's good news.

Yes, anything that leads to the whole stupid Zonal/Oyster system has
got to be a good thing. *I don't much like Boris but if he's _finally_
doing something to send Oyster to the bin where in belongs, I'll even
forgive him all that Routemaster nonsense.

I wouldn't get your hopes up. I think Mizter T was only hinting about
OEPs not the entire Oyster concept. *It's not going anywhere near a bin
for a very long time - too much money and political capital has been
invested.

More to the point everyone uses it and most people like it! But solar
penguin is welcome to keep on wishing for that most unlikely of
outcomes - though he might like to bear in mind Boris' keenness for so-
called "Oysterisation" (the phrase he used in relation to getting
Oyster PAYG on National Rail in London).

On 1 May, 11:25, Mizter T wrote:
On May 1, 10:00*am, Paul Corfield wrote:





On Sat, 1 May 2010 00:14:08 -0700 (PDT), solar penguin
wrote:

Neil Williams wrote:

On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 08:53:04 -0700 (PDT), Mizter T
wrote:
Perhaps just in time
for the whole system to be abandoned come May!

Really? *That's good news.

Yes, anything that leads to the whole stupid Zonal/Oyster system has
got to be a good thing. *I don't much like Boris but if he's _finally_
doing something to send Oyster to the bin where in belongs, I'll even
forgive him all that Routemaster nonsense.

I wouldn't get your hopes up. I think Mizter T was only hinting about
OEPs not the entire Oyster concept. *It's not going anywhere near a bin
for a very long time - too much money and political capital has been
invested.

More to the point everyone uses it and most people like it! But solar
penguin is welcome to keep on wishing for that most unlikely of
outcomes - though he might like to bear in mind Boris' keenness for so-
called "Oysterisation" (the phrase he used in relation to getting
Oyster PAYG on National Rail in London).

I couldn't quite follow Mr Penguin's hopefulness anyway, nor yours
actually, but they are contradictory anyway .... No, I've lost it,
but what I mean is ...

Given that OEPs were basically a way of sabotaging the implementation
of PAYG on NR, their abandonment would actually help to establish
Oyster, not get rid of it.

But at the same time, the fact that TOCs are starting to make OEPs
available is presumably an indication that they are not going to be
abandoned and removes one argument for ignoring them (ie that you
couldn't get them at the places where they are required from the
machines of the companies that required them).