On Sat, 22 May 2010 18:15:11 +0100, Tom Anderson
wrote:

On Sat, 22 May 2010, Bruce wrote:

But today, we have the situation where railways are extremely costly to
build and never generate any profit. Instead, they require very large
subsidies for construction *and* operation. So if developers of office
space in the Isle of Dogs and of housing in areas that might serve those
offices want to make vast profits on their property developments, it
should not be made on the back of taxpayers.

What happened to this land value tax that was floated when Crossrail was
being planned? The idea was something like a special levy of any gain in
value of property around Crossrail stations. I assume there'd be a
mechanism for discounting out some estimate of any increase that would
have happened anyway or something. That always seemed like a rather fair
way of doing it.


I agree, it did seem fair. But I think it was dropped in favour of
using whatever methods of persuasion were available to elicit
voluntary contributions from developers. That hasn't been terribly
successful.

On May 21, 3:09*pm, Robert Cox wrote:
On 2010-05-21 17:34:26 +0100, Richard J. said:





E27002 wrote on 21 May 2010 16:34:49 ...
On May 21, 8:28 am, *wrote:
On 21 Mai, 17:21, *wrote:

EalingBroadway always looked like a good station at which to turn
back Crossrail trains to me.

Isn't there a swathe of wasteland between the Central line tracks and
the GWML?

Not that I recall. *But. it has been a while since I was there!
Perhaps a GW commuting poster can enlighten us?

The satellite view on Google maps shows that the Central Line runs
adjacent to the GWML for about half a mile before heading north-west to
West Acton. *There is no significant amount of waste land where the
lines diverge, nor where the District diverges closer to EB station.
But the real problem is that without serious demolition of property,
there just isn't the space at the station itself to put in extra
platforms to cope with terminating Crossrail there.

Part of the Crossrail plan is to build a grade separated junction just
east ofEalingBroadway to allow the long stone trains to and from the
Mendips access to Acton yard without obstructing traffic on the Relief
lines. Temporary terminating platforms here are not feasible.

Temporary was not what I had in mind. When Crossrail eventually
extends to Maidenhead/Reading/wherever, Ealing Broadway would be a
good alternative to Paddington for reversing the "short" diagrams.

Moreover, there is room if the Crossrail platforms replace the
existing Central Line platforms. Failing all else there is always
Greenford I suppose! :-)

"E27002" wrote

Temporary was not what I had in mind. When Crossrail eventually
extends to Maidenhead/Reading/wherever, Ealing Broadway would be a
good alternative to Paddington for reversing the "short" diagrams.

Moreover, there is room if the Crossrail platforms replace the
existing Central Line platforms. Failing all else there is always
Greenford I suppose! :-)

There won't be enough Relief Line paths between Paddington and Ealing
Broadway for the whole Crossrail service plus GWML stoppers, even if you
manage to segregate Crossrail trains approaching Ealing Broadway from
freights out of Acton or off the NLL.

Ideally Crossrail will go to Reading, so there will be no remaining GWML
Relief Line stoppers.

And if you banish the Central Line from Ealing Broadway, what provision will
you have for such journeys as Shepherds Bush to Slough - make people use the
H&C and double back via Paddington?

Peter

On May 22, 11:53*pm, "Peter Masson" wrote:
"E27002" wrote



Temporary was not what I had in mind. *When Crossrail eventually
extends to Maidenhead/Reading/wherever, Ealing Broadway would be a
good alternative to Paddington for reversing the "short" diagrams.

Moreover, there is room if the Crossrail platforms replace the
existing Central Line platforms. *Failing all else there is always
Greenford I suppose! *:-)

There won't be enough Relief Line paths between Paddington and Ealing
Broadway for the whole Crossrail service plus GWML stoppers, even if you
manage to segregate Crossrail trains approaching Ealing Broadway from
freights out of Acton or off the NLL.

Ideally Crossrail will go to Reading, so there will be no remaining GWML
Relief Line stoppers.

And if you banish the Central Line from Ealing Broadway, what provision will
you have for such journeys as Shepherds Bush to Slough - make people use the
H&C and double back via Paddington?

Peter

Yes. :-)