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On 22/07/2010 18:53, Mizter T wrote:

On Jul 22, 6:17 pm, wrote:

Oops, missed out a word. Birmingham was the one I was thinking of,
but there must be others.


There are currently no internal air services from Birmingham to
Heathrow and there hasn't been such a service since the 1970s.

There are flights from Leeds to London but I believe those head in a
Stanstead or (London Luton) direction.


According to wonkypedia, Leeds/Bradford had BMI flights to Heathrow
until March '09, then since June '09 Flybe has flown from LBA to
Gatwick.


That is correct. But KLM LBA - AMS is much more useful for
connectional purposes, or bmi LBA - BRU for that matter.
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On Jul 22, 11:47*am, "tim...." wrote:
"Basil Jet" wrote in message

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On 2010\07\22 11:43, tim.... wrote:


but will prefer to take a taxi from
a central London station.


I have to disagree with that view. *ISTM that there will be very few
passengers of a public transport system who would "prefer" to add a 70
pound
taxi fare onto the end when a simple interchange to a "metro" system
(could)
exist.


70 GBP in a taxi from Old Oak would take you to Romford!


I was replying to a comment about justifying OOC not being built, so the
fare would be from Euston (to Heathrow).



Wow, USD100.00 to reach the Central Business area from the main
airport. Methinks London has a problem.

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On Jul 22, 7:52*pm, Jeremy Double wrote:

On 22/07/2010 18:53, Mizter T wrote:

On Jul 22, 6:17 pm, *wrote:
[snip]
There are flights from Leeds to London but I believe those head in a
Stanstead or (London Luton) direction.


According to wonkypedia, Leeds/Bradford had BMI flights to Heathrow
until March '09, then since June '09 Flybe has flown from LBA to
Gatwick.


That is correct. *But KLM LBA - AMS is much more useful for
connectional purposes, or bmi LBA - BRU for that matter.


Oh absolutely - can't think the Gatwick route is all that useful, as
unless I'm mistaken one can only get through ticketing on to other
Flybe destinations - the one onward destination that stands out as
appearing obviously useful for common business trip purposes is
Dusseldorf, though I suppose there's the Channel Islands too, and the
three French destinations could have some rather more niche custom.
Otherwise I guess those who're flying on other airlines from Gatwick
might have a preference to travel by air from LBA albeit with a long
enough safety cushion of time built in, though I think I'd still get
the train down (or rather more to the point route myself some other
way) - but it wouldn't even cross my mind to fly from LBA if the
destination was London itself. If they're still flying the route they
must have sufficient patronage to keep it going, I suppose.
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On Jul 22, 10:11*pm, Mizter T wrote:

On Jul 22, 7:52*pm, Jeremy Double wrote:

On 22/07/2010 18:53, Mizter T wrote:
[snip]
According to wonkypedia, Leeds/Bradford had BMI flights to Heathrow
until March '09, then since June '09 Flybe has flown from LBA to
Gatwick.


That is correct. *But KLM LBA - AMS is much more useful for
connectional purposes, or bmi LBA - BRU for that matter.


Oh absolutely - can't think the Gatwick route is all that useful, as
unless I'm mistaken one can only get through ticketing on to other
Flybe destinations - the one onward destination that stands out as
appearing obviously useful for common business trip purposes is
Dusseldorf, [...]


Except that Jet2 flies direct from LBA to Dusseldorf - that said, all
the Jet2 flights are in the evening, so perhaps the Flybe option via
Gatwick might work out better for some - of course, there's also the
KLM option via Schipol, which is the very point you were making!
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On Thu, 22 Jul 2010, Mizter T wrote:

(Oh, and Stansted has no "a"


Stnstead?

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On Jul 22, 2:57*pm, Tom Anderson wrote:
On Thu, 22 Jul 2010, Mizter T wrote:
(Oh, and Stansted has no "a"


Stnstead?

No, Stnsted! :-)

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On Jul 23, 2:37*am, 1506 wrote:

On Jul 22, 2:57*pm, Tom Anderson wrote: On Thu, 22 Jul 2010, Mizter T wrote:
(Oh, and Stansted has no "a"


Stnstead?


No, Stnsted! :-)


Stnsted Irport no less...
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On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 05:23:03PM +0100, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 16:20:59 on Thu,
22 Jul 2010, Graeme remarked:
Arrivals was what I was thinking of, especially when the on-time airline is
90 minutes late again and the last train is long gone.

I know, I've been dumped back there in the small hours ("Go go go, late
late late") with no transport back to Cambridge before now.


The last time (and indeed the only time) I've used Essex International,
the plane arrived after the last train had left, so they paid for a taxi
to take me home.

I was genuinely shocked at getting good customer service from an
airline. Atlantic Airways. A++++, would fly again.

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On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 07:52:45PM +0100, Jeremy Double wrote:

That is correct. But KLM LBA - AMS is much more useful for
connectional purposes, or bmi LBA - BRU for that matter.


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On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 10:47:17AM +0100, Neil Williams wrote:

That then only really leaves Scotland, which for the numbers involved
might as well stay with air.


ITYM might as well stay with the east coast main line. London to
Edinburgh by train is *already* faster than going by plane, once you
take into account travel time to/from airports and pointless hanging
around.

And nowhere else in Scotland matters (apart from Glasgow, which has the
west coast line) because so few people live there.

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