On 8 Aug, 15:17, "Paul Scott" wrote:
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I looked on the websitehttp://splityourticket.co.uk, but it said that
there were no available options on that route, which I found slightly
surprising.

I could be wrong, but I don't think anyone has successfully produced a
'split fare system' that does a full search. It might just be a lookup of
splits already reported, or known to the authors...

Paul S

Well I'm not sure how this one works, but if it's a lookup it's
unsuccessful

Honeybourne to Paddington - 'no split available' OPDR £32

Splitting in Slough £22.50 plus £7.50 - £30 total

In the past it (or a competitor) HAS shown the split.

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On 8 Aug, 15:17, "Paul Scott" wrote:
wrote in message

news:82i7o.66843$Gc2.56680@hurricane...

I looked on the websitehttp://splityourticket.co.uk, but it said
that there were no available options on that route, which I found
slightly surprising.

I could be wrong, but I don't think anyone has successfully produced a
'split fare system' that does a full search. It might just be a lookup
of splits already reported, or known to the authors...

Well I'm not sure how this one works, but if it's a lookup it's
unsuccessful

Honeybourne to Paddington - 'no split available' OPDR £32

Splitting in Slough £22.50 plus £7.50 - £30 total

In the past it (or a competitor) HAS shown the split.

The examples I saw online just now were of 2008 fares.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

"Paul Scott" wrote in message
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"David A Stocks" wrote in message
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If you have a Network Railcard there is an off-peak day return available
for around £11.00, failing that you might be able to get single AP tix
for
booked trains from £3.75 each way, but these can be very restrictive.

The OP is travelling midweek. The Network Card minimum fare is now £13 on
weekdays...

Paul S
Southern give the full third off with no minimum on some of their fares,
which is why I currently travel to London and back (from Brighton) for £7.85
two or three times/week - that's the current Network Card discounted super
off-peak return fare, routed Not Gatwick Express, with a 15% discount for
buying via the web site.

If you don't believe it why don't you go and look for yourself? - after all
where do you think I got the price I quoted from?

--
DAS

On 08/08/2010 11:42, Derek F wrote:
On 07/08/2010 23:35, Mizter T wrote:

On Aug 7, 11:20 pm, Derek wrote:

On 07/08/2010 20:21, Peter Smyth wrote:

wrote:

I have to go to Brighton for the day in the middle of next week during
off-peak hours, and I wanted to know if anybody knew of any
split-ticketing from London Victoria.

I looked on the websitehttp://splityourticket.co.uk, but it said that
there were no available options on that route, which I found slightly
surprising.

Split ticketing generally only works for long-distance flows where
there
is no Day Return available. I wouldn't expect to find anything on
journeys within the NSE area such as this.

Southern are currently offering 25% off on their website so a CDR would
be 16.30 instead of 21.70. That is probably as cheap as you will get.

The cheapest way is a Daysave ticket for 10.00, unfortunately you need
to book 7 days in advance so it is too late for this trip.

Some Tourist Offices sell the Daysave on the day.

AIUI the only place that sells Southern DaySave tickets on the day is
the 1 Stop Travel shop in Brighton (run by Brighton& Hove buses) -
furthermore only the 1 Stop Travel shop on Old Steine, not the one at
Brighton station - more info:
http://www.buses.co.uk/trips/onestop.aspx

However this does remind me of something I'd thought of doing before -
from London a traveller could take advantage of a cheap Advance fare
to get from Victoria to Brighton, and could then walk down and buy a
DaySave ticket either for onward travel to elsewhere on Southern
trains along the south coast or just for their return journey back to
London later.

Incidentally a ticket that goes by the name of DaySave is sold at some
tourist offices, but it's the separate FCC Thameslink route DaySave -
more info at the bottom of this page:
http://www.firstcapitalconnect.co.uk/Main.php?iCmsPageId=104

(Worth noting that the 1 Stop Travel shop on Old Stein also sells
these on the day too.)
Eastbourne tourist office sell the DaySave tickets on the day. It would
seem likely that Southern would have other outlets.
Derek
The Eastbourne web site says 'agents such as...'
http://www.visiteastbourne.com/thedm...&venue=3413256
Derek

On Aug 8, 11:02*pm, Derek F wrote:

On 08/08/2010 11:42, Derek F wrote:

On 07/08/2010 23:35, Mizter T wrote:

On Aug 7, 11:20 pm, Derek wrote:

On 07/08/2010 20:21, Peter Smyth wrote:
(snip)
The cheapest way is a Daysave ticket for 10.00, unfortunately you
need to book 7 days in advance so it is too late for this trip.

Some Tourist Offices sell the Daysave on the day.

AIUI the only place that sells Southern DaySave tickets on the day is
the 1 Stop Travel shop in Brighton (run by Brighton& Hove buses) -
furthermore only the 1 Stop Travel shop on Old Steine, not the one at
Brighton station - more info:
http://www.buses.co.uk/trips/onestop.aspx

(snip)

Incidentally a ticket that goes by the name of DaySave is sold at some
tourist offices, but it's the separate FCC Thameslink route DaySave -
more info at the bottom of this page:
http://www.firstcapitalconnect.co.uk/Main.php?iCmsPageId=104

(Worth noting that the 1 Stop Travel shop on Old Stein also sells
these on the day too.)

Eastbourne tourist office sell the DaySave tickets on the day. It would
seem likely that Southern would have other outlets.

The Eastbourne web site says 'agents such as...'
http://www.visiteastbourne.com/thedm...&venue=3413256

Thanks Derek, didn't realise the Southern DaySave was available
anywhere else apart from the 1 Stop Travel shop in Brighton - be
interesting to know what other places sell it too.

We did have quite a big discussion about Southern DaySave on
uk.railway around this time last year, when the availability of said
ticket at 1 Stop Travel came up but no-one offered any other outlets,
so I had wrongly assumed it couldn't be purchased over the counter on
the day anywhere else.

"David A Stocks" wrote in message
...
"Paul Scott" wrote in message
...


"David A Stocks" wrote in message
...

If you have a Network Railcard there is an off-peak day return available
for around £11.00, failing that you might be able to get single AP tix
for
booked trains from £3.75 each way, but these can be very restrictive.

The OP is travelling midweek. The Network Card minimum fare is now £13 on
weekdays...

Southern give the full third off with no minimum on some of their fares,
which is why I currently travel to London and back (from Brighton) for
£7.85 two or three times/week - that's the current Network Card discounted
super off-peak return fare, routed Not Gatwick Express, with a 15%
discount for buying via the web site.

If you don't believe it why don't you go and look for yourself? - after
all where do you think I got the price I quoted from?

It isn't obvious from your earlier post that you were getting more than one
discount.

I believe you...

Paul

On 8 Aug, 15:17, "Paul Scott" wrote:
wrote in message

news:82i7o.66843$Gc2.56680@hurricane...

I looked on the websitehttp://splityourticket.co.uk, but it said that
there were no available options on that route, which I found slightly
surprising.

I could be wrong, but I don't think anyone has successfully produced a
'split fare system' that does a full search. It might just be a lookup of
splits already reported, or known to the authors...

Paul S

There was an exhaustive system discussed on here a few years ago. For
all but the simplest of journeys, it fell over.

I think this is because it relied on live queries of publically
available (web based = v. slow ) front-ends.

Even with a well pruned search tree, the number of hits you'd need fo
any non trivial journey would be huge - and that's true even if you
didn't fall into a tarpit, etc.

In order to do a reasonable job, you'd need direct access to the ojp
databases - each query would still be far more computationally
expensive than a standard ojp query. The people who can do this most
cheaply are the people with the most to lose from such a system
working so don't expect it any time soon.

In the current climate, the application of some basic knowledge to
create rule of thumb heuristics (ie test splitting at major
interchanges / regional boundaries / known price break points ) plus
attempts at some sort of primitive 'crowdsourcing' (yuk) - like the
site cited above - might be the best available approach.

Jon

Southern give the full third off with no minimum on some of their fares,
which is why I currently travel to London and back (from Brighton) for £7.85
two or three times/week - that's the current Network Card discounted super
off-peak return fare, routed Not Gatwick Express, with a 15% discount for
buying via the web site.

If you don't believe it why don't you go and look for yourself? - after all
where do you think I got the price I quoted from?

--
DAS

I can confirm that I've seen that happen (Southern website ignoring
the £13 NSE minimum). That was on a order with a mixture of railcards
- I'd just assumed that the system couldn't cope with the different
restrictions.

Jon

On 9 Aug, 00:15, Mizter T wrote:
On Aug 8, 11:02*pm, Derek F wrote:



On 08/08/2010 11:42, Derek F wrote:

On 07/08/2010 23:35, Mizter T wrote:

On Aug 7, 11:20 pm, Derek wrote:

On 07/08/2010 20:21, Peter Smyth wrote:
(snip)
The cheapest way is a Daysave ticket for 10.00, unfortunately you
need to book 7 days in advance so it is too late for this trip.

Some Tourist Offices sell the Daysave on the day.

AIUI the only place that sells Southern DaySave tickets on the day is
the 1 Stop Travel shop in Brighton (run by Brighton& Hove buses) -
furthermore only the 1 Stop Travel shop on Old Steine, not the one at
Brighton station - more info:
http://www.buses.co.uk/trips/onestop.aspx

(snip)

Incidentally a ticket that goes by the name of DaySave is sold at some
tourist offices, but it's the separate FCC Thameslink route DaySave -
more info at the bottom of this page:
http://www.firstcapitalconnect.co.uk/Main.php?iCmsPageId=104

(Worth noting that the 1 Stop Travel shop on Old Stein also sells
these on the day too.)

Eastbourne tourist office sell the DaySave tickets on the day. It would
seem likely that Southern would have other outlets.

The Eastbourne web site says 'agents such as...'
http://www.visiteastbourne.com/thedm...&venue=3413256

Thanks Derek, didn't realise the Southern DaySave was available
anywhere else apart from the 1 Stop Travel shop in Brighton - be
interesting to know what other places sell it too.

We did have quite a big discussion about Southern DaySave on
uk.railway around this time last year, when the availability of said
ticket at 1 Stop Travel came up but no-one offered any other outlets,
so I had wrongly assumed it couldn't be purchased over the counter on
the day anywhere else.

I'd never heard of this either (my office overlooks the Old Steine,
BTN so I quite often end up using on-the-day DaySaves ) - the wording
clearly implies there could be other outlets but i've never come
across any.

"Jon Passenger" wrote in message
...
Southern give the full third off with no minimum on some of their fares,
which is why I currently travel to London and back (from Brighton) for
£7.85
two or three times/week - that's the current Network Card discounted
super
off-peak return fare, routed Not Gatwick Express, with a 15% discount for
buying via the web site.

If you don't believe it why don't you go and look for yourself? - after
all
where do you think I got the price I quoted from?

--
DAS

I can confirm that I've seen that happen (Southern website ignoring
the £13 NSE minimum). That was on a order with a mixture of railcards
- I'd just assumed that the system couldn't cope with the different
restrictions.

It does seem odd - particular now that I've noticed that SN's '25% discount
T&C' doesn't list the Network Card as being eligible:
http://www.southernrailway.com/offer...-off-peak/223/

But the website does appear to allow me a Fareham to Victoria super offpeak
return for £6.95 with NC discount. Bargain...

Paul S