On Mon, 6 Sep 2010 21:49:56 +0100, Roland Perry
wrote:

That's the difference between the Super-off-peak fare to London which
would have gelled with a 1pm meeting (had everything been running
smoothly) and the Off-Peak fare needed for an earlier train to make sure
[fsvo] getting there on time. And the unions [maybe] wonder why they are
losing public support?

I noted this morning complete chaos at Paddington because Paddington
LUL was closed even though the Bakerloo Line was running.

Was there some sort of work to rule that prevented them redeploying
staff to stations that were actually useful rather than the more
obscure ones?

Were extra buses actually deployed in central London where they were
needed? In some places they were quiet, but in others they were full
before they got anywhere near central areas.

Neil
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Neil Williams in Milton Keynes, UK
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On 7 Sep, 23:32, Neil Williams wrote:
On Mon, 6 Sep 2010 21:49:56 +0100, Roland Perry
wrote:

That's the difference between the Super-off-peak fare to London which
would have gelled with a 1pm meeting (had everything been running
smoothly) and the Off-Peak fare needed for an earlier train to make sure
[fsvo] getting there on time. And the unions [maybe] wonder why they are
losing public support?

I noted this morning complete chaos at Paddington because Paddington
LUL was closed even though the Bakerloo Line was running.

Was there some sort of work to rule that prevented them redeploying
staff to stations that were actually useful rather than the more
obscure ones?

Were extra buses actually deployed in central London where they were
needed? *In some places they were quiet, but in others they were full
before they got anywhere near central areas.

The news reports have been stupidly dramatic. I can't believe the
idiots they dig out to talk garbage about "carnage" and so on. Why do
people have to be such drama monarchs about taking slightly longer to
get to work? So they can invoke a misplaced blitz spirit, resisting
the tyranny of transport workers who they ought to be supporting?

Most people have legs after all and just had to deploy them. The
roads were pretty jammed in central London, so not much point in
adding more buses to them or getting in any.

I wanted to get to Euston and walked from Charing Cross, which
required getting a train in from the south east thirteen minutes
earlier than I would have done if I was going to use LU. I was
early. Just shows how long one wastes on all those escalators and
stuff.

On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 15:42:57 -0700 (PDT), MIG
wrote:

I wanted to get to Euston and walked from Charing Cross, which
required getting a train in from the south east thirteen minutes
earlier than I would have done if I was going to use LU. I was
early. Just shows how long one wastes on all those escalators and
stuff.

Walking from Euston to Paddington cost me about half an hour, FWIW.
But "crowd situations", particularly when bad enough for the police to
get involved, can get dangerous, and that's what happened outside
Paddington.

What I don't get is why people queued for an hour and a half for boats
to Canary Wharf. The DLR was running, and even if it hadn't been I
bet it wouldn't have taken vastly longer than that to walk.

What
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Neil Williams in Milton Keynes, UK
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On 8 Sep, 06:57, Neil Williams wrote:
On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 15:42:57 -0700 (PDT), MIG

wrote:
I wanted to get to Euston and walked from Charing Cross, which
required getting a train in from the south east thirteen minutes
earlier than I would have done if I was going to use LU. *I was
early. *Just shows how long one wastes on all those escalators and
stuff.

Walking from Euston to Paddington cost me about half an hour, FWIW.
But "crowd situations", particularly when bad enough for the police to
get involved, can get dangerous, and that's what happened outside
Paddington.

What I don't get is why people queued for an hour and a half for boats
to Canary Wharf. *The DLR was running, and even if it hadn't been I
bet it wouldn't have taken vastly longer than that to walk.

What
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Neil Williams in Milton Keynes, UK
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It was a pleasure to get the Victoria Line from Kings Cross to
Blackhorse Road yesterday afternoon, if only to stick the proverbial
two fingers up at Comrade Crow.

Tottenham Hale was closed due to the strike. However later on there
was an announcement of the travel news that it is now open, the bad
news being that the Victoria Line is suspended between Seven Sisters
and Walthamstow.

In message , at 23:32:57 on
Tue, 7 Sep 2010, Neil Williams
remarked:
I noted this morning complete chaos at Paddington because Paddington
LUL was closed even though the Bakerloo Line was running.

Was there some sort of work to rule that prevented them redeploying
staff to stations that were actually useful rather than the more
obscure ones?

I think they close the underground at major stations (even if trains are
running) to avoid serious overcrowding. I've seen this myself at Kings
Cross (years ago). I forces people to disperse; some will use other
modes, the rest walk to a range of "next nearest" tube stations.
--
Roland Perry

In message
, at
15:42:57 on Tue, 7 Sep 2010, MIG remarked:
I wanted to get to Euston and walked from Charing Cross, which
required getting a train in from the south east thirteen minutes
earlier than I would have done if I was going to use LU. I was
early. Just shows how long one wastes on all those escalators and
stuff.

It's also not very far (a mile and a half). Liverpool St to Paddington
is over four miles.
--
Roland Perry

On 8 Sep, 09:59, Roland Perry wrote:
In message
, at
15:42:57 on Tue, 7 Sep 2010, MIG remarked:

I wanted to get to Euston and walked from Charing Cross, which
required getting a train in from the south east thirteen minutes
earlier than I would have done if I was going to use LU. *I was
early. *Just shows how long one wastes on all those escalators and
stuff.

It's also not very far (a mile and a half). Liverpool St to Paddington
is over four miles.
--
Roland Perry

It certainly is. If that was my route, I might have taken a folding
bike, had a longer walk, worked at home or whatever. I'm just saying
that the drama was over the top.

On 8 Sep, 09:53, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 23:32:57 on
Tue, 7 Sep 2010, Neil Williams
remarked:

I noted this morning complete chaos at Paddington because Paddington
LUL was closed even though the Bakerloo Line was running.

Was there some sort of work to rule that prevented them redeploying
staff to stations that were actually useful rather than the more
obscure ones?

I think they close the underground at major stations (even if trains are
running) to avoid serious overcrowding. I've seen this myself at Kings
Cross (years ago). I forces people to disperse; some will use other
modes, the rest walk to a range of "next nearest" tube stations.
--
Roland Perry

And it seems to work, with no sign of chaos or danger at Charing Cross
or Euston at either end of the day. The main problem is too many
pedestrians walking slowly and aimlessly.

On Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 03:42:57PM -0700, MIG wrote:

The news reports have been stupidly dramatic. I can't believe the
idiots they dig out to talk garbage about "carnage" and so on. Why do
people have to be such drama monarchs about taking slightly longer to
get to work? So they can invoke a misplaced blitz spirit, resisting
the tyranny of transport workers who they ought to be supporting?

Dunno about "ought to be supporting", but I can certainly agree with you
about them being drama queens.

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For He is a Fun God
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"MIG" wrote in message

So they can invoke a misplaced blitz spirit, resisting
the tyranny of transport workers who they ought to be supporting?

Why?