On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 13:37:47 +0000, Diversity Isn't A Codeword For
Anti-White wrote:

I totally agree! on TalkRadio this morning there was a debate about this new
toll road and most callers supported it! I thought you bunch of morons! Only
a small amount of the road tax we pay gets spent on the roads, the rest is
stolen and wasted by other government departments. There lies the ****ing
problem! why on earth anybody thinks we should have to pay an extra tax to
use a new road that should ALREADY be funded by our road tax I do not know.


Plenty of people are happy (well- 'uncomplaining' might be a better word)
about the dozens of prior examples of similar 'pay to drive' facilities:

Severn Bridge x2
Humber Bridge
Dartford crossings
Mersey crossings
etc

None of which would have been built by the Government in power at the
times, if private funding had not been around to build them.

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On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 13:37:47 +0000, Diversity Isn't A Codeword For
Anti-White wrote:

I totally agree! on TalkRadio this morning there was a debate about this new
toll road and most callers supported it! I thought you bunch of morons! Only
a small amount of the road tax we pay gets spent on the roads, the rest is
stolen and wasted by other government departments. There lies the ****ing
problem! why on earth anybody thinks we should have to pay an extra tax to
use a new road that should ALREADY be funded by our road tax I do not know.


Plenty of people are happy (well- 'uncomplaining' might be a better word)
about the dozens of prior examples of similar 'pay to drive' facilities:

Severn Bridge x2
Humber Bridge
Dartford crossings
Mersey crossings
etc

People are complaining about the Humber Bridge. The people mainly using
it are those going to Grimsby. It's so popular, the traffic figures
have never met estimates and its in record debt.


--
Conor

A whack off a day keeps the Viagra at bay.

In message , Conor
writes
People are complaining about the Humber Bridge. The people mainly using
it are those going to Grimsby.

People go *to* Grimsby?

--
Jonathan Bratt

In message , Conor
writes
Conor

A whack off a day keeps the Viagra at bay.
Hey Conor, that's a new tag line, better than the old repetition, keep
it up;-)
--
Clive

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says...
In message , Conor
writes
Conor

A whack off a day keeps the Viagra at bay.
Hey Conor, that's a new tag line, better than the old repetition, keep
it up;-)

I plan on a change once a week or so. Decided that the old one was not
on. Just wish I'd have decided a little bit earlier.


--
Conor

A whack off a day keeps the Viagra at bay.

On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 14:17:13 +0000, Take a Walk
wrote:

On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 13:37:47 +0000, Diversity Isn't A Codeword For
Anti-White wrote:

I totally agree! on TalkRadio this morning there was a debate about this new
toll road and most callers supported it! I thought you bunch of morons! Only
a small amount of the road tax we pay gets spent on the roads, the rest is
stolen and wasted by other government departments. There lies the ****ing
problem! why on earth anybody thinks we should have to pay an extra tax to
use a new road that should ALREADY be funded by our road tax I do not know.


Plenty of people are happy (well- 'uncomplaining' might be a better word)
about the dozens of prior examples of similar 'pay to drive' facilities:

Severn Bridge x2
Humber Bridge
Dartford crossings
Mersey crossings
etc

None of which would have been built by the Government in power at the
times, if private funding had not been around to build them.
Whether they are "happy" or just tolerant is another issue. These
schemes are different in that they are crossings of some kind,i.e
short lengths,not entire motorways,and they are in place of something
which often wasnt there before i.e we need to cross a river,lets build
a bridge or tunnel. There already is an M6 motorway,we dont need
another,we just need government to maintain the existing one. They
wont do this becuase they want to take OUR tax and yet let a private
initiative tear up OUR country to make profit for THEMSELVES ,not the
people.

In message , tarquinlinbin
writes
There already is an M6 motorway,we dont need another,
You've obviously not sat in the jams then.
--
Clive

"Take a Walk" wrote in message
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On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 13:37:47 +0000, Diversity Isn't A Codeword For
Anti-White wrote:

I totally agree! on TalkRadio this morning there was a debate about this
new
toll road and most callers supported it! I thought you bunch of morons!
Only
a small amount of the road tax we pay gets spent on the roads, the rest
is
stolen and wasted by other government departments. There lies the
****ing
problem! why on earth anybody thinks we should have to pay an extra tax
to
use a new road that should ALREADY be funded by our road tax I do not
know.


Plenty of people are happy (well- 'uncomplaining' might be a better word)
about the dozens of prior examples of similar 'pay to drive' facilities:

Severn Bridge x2
Humber Bridge
Dartford crossings
Mersey crossings
etc

None of which would have been built by the Government in power at the
times, if private funding had not been around to build them.

Quite right about the private funding bit of building bridges, however I
seem to remember that when the Dartford Crossing was built the toll was
eventually meant to be phased out. That was 2 years ago.
Funny that at the time the gov. done a survey and said that if the tolls
were phased out, more people would use the crossing thereby causing more
hold-ups! I don't suppose for an instant it the fact that the crossing
generates approx. 50 million per annum. And they've obviously never been
there most mornings from 6-8 or afternoons between 2.30-6.
As for complaining, I think everybody has complained at one time or another
regarding the fact that a toll crossing exists in the middle of one of
Britain's busiest motorways. So why should we the general public pay to use
a road that has already paid for from taxes of one kind or another?
After all if my costs increase to move goods from AtoB, who do you think I
pass that cost on to?

Quite right about the private funding bit of building bridges, however I
seem to remember that when the Dartford Crossing was built the toll was
eventually meant to be phased out.

I would expect less congestion on the crossing if everyone didn't have to
queue for the toll!

It was due to disappear next year. and indeed it will. To be replaced with
another toll, exactly the same price the next day.

It was due to disappear next year. and indeed it will. To be replaced
with another toll, exactly the same price the next day.

It has already happened, in fact. There is now a cheaper rate between 10pm
and 6am, to encourage traffic to use it during the off peak hours.

But yes, it was supposed to be scrapped completely.