NR have announced their initial ideas about moving the concourse
catering/retail outlets at Waterloo up to first floor level, with escalator
connections etc, freeing up space for passenger circulation.

Not a million miles from the mezzanine 'catering floor' being provided at
the new KX western ticket hall really. Details he

http://www.networkrailmediacentre.co...egoryID-8.aspx

Paul S

In message , Paul Scott
writes

NR have announced their initial ideas about moving the concourse
catering/retail outlets at Waterloo up to first floor level, with
escalator connections etc, freeing up space for passenger circulation.

Thanks for the link. It does seem extraordinary, though, that over a
million pounds a year is being spent in maintaining the unused Eurostar
platforms and terminal at Waterloo. I should have thought that bringing
them back into use would have been more of a priority.
--
Paul Terry

In message , at 16:28:38 on Mon, 15
Nov 2010, Paul Terry remarked:
NR have announced their initial ideas about moving the concourse
catering/retail outlets at Waterloo up to first floor level, with
escalator connections etc, freeing up space for passenger circulation.

Thanks for the link. It does seem extraordinary, though, that over a
million pounds a year is being spent in maintaining the unused Eurostar
platforms and terminal at Waterloo. I should have thought that bringing
them back into use would have been more of a priority.

It's been reported that the bottleneck at Waterloo isn't platform
capacity, but tracks outside the station.
--
Roland Perry

"Paul Terry" wrote in message
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In message , Paul Scott
writes

NR have announced their initial ideas about moving the concourse
catering/retail outlets at Waterloo up to first floor level, with
escalator connections etc, freeing up space for passenger circulation.

Thanks for the link. It does seem extraordinary, though, that over a
million pounds a year is being spent in maintaining the unused Eurostar
platforms and terminal at Waterloo.

I don't believe for one minute it's costing that to maintain. That's just
the nominal amount that it could make if it were being used (but there isn't
a use for it)

tim

In message , tim....
writes

"Paul Terry" wrote in message
...

Thanks for the link. It does seem extraordinary, though, that over a
million pounds a year is being spent in maintaining the unused Eurostar
platforms and terminal at Waterloo.

I don't believe for one minute it's costing that to maintain.

The figure quoted in parliament earlier this month, obtained as the
result of a freedom of information request, was a cost to the tax payer
of more than four million pounds for keeping the platforms mothballed
for the last three years.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-11683932

http://edmi.parliament.uk/EDMi/EDMDe...36&SESSION=905

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Paul Terry

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 04:28:38PM +0000, Paul Terry wrote:

Thanks for the link. It does seem extraordinary, though, that over a
million pounds a year is being spent in maintaining the unused Eurostar
platforms and terminal at Waterloo. I should have thought that bringing
them back into use would have been more of a priority.

It seems extraordinary to me that it would cost that much to clean up
pigeon **** a few times a year.

--
David Cantrell | Enforcer, South London Linguistic Massive

For every vengeance, there is an equal and opposite revengeance.
-- Cartoon Law X

In message , at 15:19:12 on
Mon, 15 Nov 2010, Paul Scott remarked:

NR have announced their initial ideas about moving the concourse

mid-concourse

catering/retail outlets at Waterloo up to first floor level, with
escalator connections etc, freeing up space for passenger circulation.

Those retail outlets should never have been allowed to clutter up the
concourse in the first place!

ps What happened to the lower level Eurostar mini-concourses, next to
the check-in and around the side where you emerged off a train? Are they
being used for extra retailing.
--
Roland Perry

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
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In message , at 15:19:12 on Mon,
15 Nov 2010, Paul Scott remarked:

NR have announced their initial ideas about moving the concourse

mid-concourse

Yes, perhaps a better description.

catering/retail outlets at Waterloo up to first floor level, with
escalator connections etc, freeing up space for passenger circulation.

Those retail outlets should never have been allowed to clutter up the
concourse in the first place!

ps What happened to the lower level Eurostar mini-concourses, next to the
check-in and around the side where you emerged off a train? Are they being
used for extra retailing.

There are other applications to use the lower parts for retail purposes but
those lower areas are BRB residuary's responsibility, rather than Network
Rail.

This has led to previous media articles suggesting that whole international
'station' would be turned over to retail, which TTBOMK has never been a
possibility...

Paul S

In message , at 17:30:04 on
Mon, 15 Nov 2010, Paul Scott remarked:
There are other applications to use the lower parts for retail purposes
but those lower areas are BRB residuary's responsibility, rather than
Network Rail.

This has led to previous media articles suggesting that whole
international 'station' would be turned over to retail, which TTBOMK
has never been a possibility...

If you demolished the check-in gates and security area (I expect they've
been robbed of all their equipment by now) you'd have quite a big area,
and extending into the original departure lounge if you wanted to.
What's going on "upstairs wouldn't be relevant.
--
Roland Perry

On Nov 15, 5:46*pm, Roland Perry wrote:

In message , at 17:30:04 on
Mon, 15 Nov 2010, Paul Scott remarked:

There are other applications to use the lower parts for retail purposes
but those lower areas are BRB residuary's responsibility, rather than
Network Rail.

This has led to previous media articles suggesting that whole
international 'station' would be turned over to retail, which TTBOMK
has never been a possibility...

If you demolished the check-in gates and security area (I expect they've
been robbed of all their equipment by now) you'd have quite a big area,
and extending into the original departure lounge if you wanted to.
What's going on "upstairs wouldn't be relevant.

IIRC at least some of the security kit (scanners etc) went to
Ebbsfleet - I think the gates (or some thereof) may have done so too.