"Robin Mayes" wrote in message ...
"Boltar" wrote in message
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How exactly are you going to take apart an escalator, with another machine
in operation for 20 hours a day just inches away from you? Don't forget
there are fire alarm cables, pipes and sensors running all around the
machinery which wouldn't be able to be isolated during the time the station
is open. Where are you going to store all these parts your engineers are
removing, there's hardly enough space in stations as it is!

I gave them roughly a week to take it apart. I think thats long enough to
remove a load of steps and other assorted pieces don't you?


Refurbish and test at factory, well lets be kind and say 3 weeks.

How exactly are you going to test a new escalator without it being in the
shaft it's been designed for?

Err , you test each individual bit. How do you think any large piece of
machinary is tested? You think they build a special shaft for lifts and test
run them in the factory before they install them in a skyscraper?

If you really think you can deliver as stated above, it would seem you're
wasted doing the job you do and you'd be able to make a massive profit
bidding for contracts for escalator refurbishment by being able to undercut
bids from the likes of Kone and Otis!

Oh here we go , they standard issue "if you think you can do better why don't
you try". Yeah , I'll just go get a grant for a few hundred million to set
up my own factory. Meanwhile , back in the real world I would suggest that
the reason they take so long to fix is that LU gives them all the time in the
world to get it done , so consequently they don't bother to work hard.

B2003

"Boltar" wrote in message
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Oh here we go , they standard issue "if you think you can do better why
don't
you try". Yeah , I'll just go get a grant for a few hundred million to set
up my own factory. Meanwhile , back in the real world I would suggest that
the reason they take so long to fix is that LU gives them all the time in
the
world to get it done , so consequently they don't bother to work hard.

Don't you think the likes of Otis or Kone would be turning round an
escalator refurbishment in six weeks if it was possible? Consider the
benifits - reduction in total wage cost per machine, more machines
refurbished per annum = huge profits for the private company and and
increased dividend for shareholders. Perhaps the management within those
private companies are dullards...

BTW, have you ever been in an escalator machine room, do you really realise
how complicated and what a constrained place it is?

"Robin Mayes" wrote in message ...

BTW, have you ever been in an escalator machine room, do you really realise
how complicated and what a constrained place it is?

I was taken in to see the old 'wooden' escalators at Marylebone, anout
twenty years ago, by an engineer. I suspect hat it's not as easy to
get in today. They were very heavily engineered, I'd like to meet
anybody who could do a major overhaul on one of those in six weeks!

It used to be possible to see into the machine room at Kentish Town by
going down the emergency stairs, and looking in through a window in
the door, if the lights were on, I don't know if it still is. How on
Earth do they get the machinery into there?

Even longer ago I managed to get into the lift machine room at one of
the Elephant and Castle stations, the Northern Line one I think, when
the original Otis machines were still there. Great stuff, I like old
electrical equipment. It's a pity that with all the security and
health and safety these days it's much harder to get visits to
interesting places. Those Otis lifts weren't really designed with
health and safety in mind!