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![]() "Walter Briscoe" wrote: This morning's 0655 BBC London news says that BorisBikes will be available to casual users from the third of December. I failed to find the relevant press release. However, I did find: http://www.tfl.gov.uk/roadusers/congestioncharging/17096.aspx I expect this to provide a significant improvement. Currently, if you don't make manual arrangements to pay the CC and incur a congestion charge, you incur a penalty charge. I live within the Congestion Charge area and can claim the 90% residents discount. I pay for a year in advance to avoid that Penalty Charge risk. This modification to the scheme will mean I won't need to do so. For me, these are 2 improvements. Blimey, not sure the number heavy subject line does much for reader-friendliness (sorry!) - you're not a coder are you perchance? The coming of casual user access for the 'Boris bikes' is welcome - though I'd imagine that a whole host of new potential issues will now open up, not least because this change will effectively open up what has up until now been a relatively closed system. With regards to CC Auto Pay - this isn't a brand new idea on the scene, it was certainly around in the summer during the statutory consultation on changes to the CC (i.e. removal of the Western Extension) and I think it was first publicly floated by TfL before that. However the £10 annual charge for registering with CC Auto Pay didn't feature in those earlier mentions of this facility, though TBH it's quite understandable that there is to be some sort of maintenance charge for benefitting from it - but compared to my original (and in retrospect naive) assumption that it'd be free to register for Auto Pay, the annual charge does change the economics somewhat as to whether it'd be advantageous for those who rarely drive into the CC zone during operational hours (still rather cheaper than a single penalty charge notice of course!). It's also noteworthy that (for non residents) the new standard charge from 4 Jan 2011 will be £10, whilst those paying by CC Auto Pay will pay a reduced charge of £9 - I'm not entirely sure of the thinking behind this, but it's worth noting that vehicles registered with 'Fleet Auto Pay' (the new name for the fleet scheme for 10+ vehicles - which is being reduced to 6+ from the new year) currently pay a reduced £7 charge compared the the current standard £8 charge - so perhaps they want to align the CC Auto Pay charge with that of Fleet Auto Pay, also I guess the transaction costs with CC Auto Pay might well be lower when compared to paying the charge each day. The other thing that interests me about this CC Auto Pay scheme is that it will throw some light onto how effective the CC zone cameras are at recording the number plates of all those vehicles which drive in the (to be shrunken) zone - regular drivers into the zone should get some idea over time as to whether they ever simply don't get detected and hence charged for a particular day. I wonder if it might also lead to a bout of daftness such as drivers trying to sandwich themselves between large vehicles when passing the cameras on the zone's boundaries in the hope of blocking their number plates, or obscuring their plates with muck or some such? My impression is that the cameras, which face both ways, are pretty hot at catching the plates of all vehicles which pass by them. What perhaps might be more likely to go undetected is vehicles moving around solely within the zone, without passing out through the zone's boundary - e.g. if you (Walter) were to drive your car for a short trip inside the zone. There are mobile CC camera vans that are out and about within the zone, but I must admit I'm not sure if there are any fixed cameras which are hooked up to the CC system - of course there are many CCTV cameras in central London which have a traffic monitoring role, and there are the fixed ANPR cameras on the edges of the City of London's 'ring of steel', and I'm pretty sure there are various ANPR cameras around other 'sensitive' locations such as Whitehall/Westminster - but I don't think any of these feed into the CC system, and I'm not sure there are any dedicated CC cameras *within* the zone. |
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