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, at
04:23:38 on Sun, 28 Nov 2010, Mizter T remarked:

if it's actually going to be possible
to get on the TL train - I dare say it could be absolutely heaving.

But surely some people will be getting out at LB. Getting on an earlier
train at Peckham Rye (my plan B) would be more difficult I think.

How does one find out about minimum connection times between London
termini? I can't find any mention of it in the National Rail
Timetable, nor on the NRE website.

They are published I believe, hoping someone would jump in...

Thinking laterally, I just tried booking a ticket from London Bridge to
Liverpool, and it uses the 9.32 arrival at St Pancras, plus a Tube to
Euston to catch the 10.07 to Liverpool.

Also, I dare say the passenger in question may only have a ticket from
Euston to Liverpool,

They could have an "and connections" ticket.

in which case one is into the slightly hazy
territory of whether or not a journey involving multiple tickets still
constitutes one journey as per the NR CoC (and hence connections
should be honoured if the requisite time for transfers is adhered to).

This has been discussed many times, but as there *are* rules for whether
you can use two tickets for one journey, and this journey qualifies
under those rules, I'm sure it's regarded as one.
--
Roland Perry

On Nov 28, 12:58*pm, Roland Perry wrote:
In message
, at
04:23:38 on Sun, 28 Nov 2010, Mizter T remarked:

if it's actually going to be possible
to get on the TL train - I dare say it could be absolutely heaving.

But surely some people will be getting out at LB. Getting on an earlier
train at Peckham Rye (my plan B) would be more difficult I think.

It probably wouldn't, because it would be coming from a different
route which won't involve any diversion from LU for its regular
punters in Bromley, Catford etc, unlike getting from London Bridge to
Euston, for which I agree that the Thameslink train might be mobbed.

From Elephant & Castle, the Peckham one might start getting mobbed,
but you'd already be on.


How does one find out about minimum connection times between London
termini? I can't find any mention of it in the National Rail
Timetable, nor on the NRE website.

They are published I believe, hoping someone would jump in...

Thinking laterally, I just tried booking a ticket from London Bridge to
Liverpool, and it uses the 9.32 arrival at St Pancras, plus a Tube to
Euston to catch the 10.07 to Liverpool.

It is a possible route, but I've been at London Bridge so many times
with the Thameslink trains already expected fifteen minutes late.
Being at London Bridge for the 0909 and finding it delayed doesn't
leave much flexibility.



Also, I dare say the passenger in question may only have a ticket from
Euston to Liverpool,

They could have an "and connections" ticket.

in which case one is into the slightly hazy
territory of whether or not a journey involving multiple tickets still
constitutes one journey as per the NR CoC (and hence connections
should be honoured if the requisite time for transfers is adhered to).

This has been discussed many times, but as there *are* rules for whether
you can use two tickets for one journey, and this journey qualifies
under those rules, I'm sure it's regarded as one.
--
Roland Perry

On Nov 28, 1:09*pm, MIG wrote:

On Nov 28, 12:58*pm, Roland Perry wrote:

In message
, at
04:23:38 on Sun, 28 Nov 2010, Mizter T remarked:

if it's actually going to be possible
to get on the TL train - I dare say it could be absolutely heaving.

But surely some people will be getting out at LB. Getting on an earlier
train at Peckham Rye (my plan B) would be more difficult I think.

It probably wouldn't, because it would be coming from a different
route which won't involve any diversion from LU for its regular
punters in Bromley, Catford etc, unlike getting from London Bridge to
Euston, for which I agree that the Thameslink train might be mobbed.

From Elephant & Castle, the Peckham one might start getting mobbed,
but you'd already be on.

Basically agreed - though I'd think some punters who normally head in
on trains to a London termini (London Bridge, Victoria etc) then Tube
it onwards likely divert on to Thameslink, but whilst quite poss
somewhat busier than normal (and they're fairly busy anyway) you'd be
able to get on the train at Peckham Rye (caveat - I can offer no
guarantees!).

On Nov 28, 1:21*pm, Mizter T wrote:
On Nov 28, 1:09*pm, MIG wrote:





On Nov 28, 12:58*pm, Roland Perry wrote:

In message
, at
04:23:38 on Sun, 28 Nov 2010, Mizter T remarked:

if it's actually going to be possible
to get on the TL train - I dare say it could be absolutely heaving.

But surely some people will be getting out at LB. Getting on an earlier
train at Peckham Rye (my plan B) would be more difficult I think.

It probably wouldn't, because it would be coming from a different
route which won't involve any diversion from LU for its regular
punters in Bromley, Catford etc, unlike getting from London Bridge to
Euston, for which I agree that the Thameslink train might be mobbed.

From Elephant & Castle, the Peckham one might start getting mobbed,
but you'd already be on.

Basically agreed - though I'd think some punters who normally head in
on trains to a London termini (London Bridge, Victoria etc) then Tube
it onwards likely divert on to Thameslink, but whilst quite poss
somewhat busier than normal (and they're fairly busy anyway) you'd be
able to get on the train at Peckham Rye (caveat - I can offer no
guarantees!).

A fair cop. I was indeed thinking of going that way, when I'd more
oftenly go via London Bridge or Victoria.

In message
, MIG
writes

It is a possible route, but I've been at London Bridge so many times
with the Thameslink trains already expected fifteen minutes late.
Being at London Bridge for the 0909 and finding it delayed doesn't
leave much flexibility.

Especially as the 09.09 is an ex-Brighton service and light snow
overnight is forecast for much of its route.
--
Paul Terry

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05:09:52 on Sun, 28 Nov 2010, MIG
remarked:

I've been at London Bridge so many times with the Thameslink trains
already expected fifteen minutes late. Being at London Bridge for the
0909 and finding it delayed doesn't leave much flexibility.

In the event, it was 6 minutes late at London bridge and 2 minutes late
at St Pancras.
--
Roland Perry

On Nov 29, 9:39*am, Roland Perry wrote:
In message
, at
05:09:52 on Sun, 28 Nov 2010, MIG
remarked:

I've been at London Bridge so many times with the Thameslink trains
already expected fifteen minutes late. Being at London Bridge for the
0909 and finding it delayed doesn't leave much flexibility.

In the event, it was 6 minutes late at London bridge and 2 minutes late
at St Pancras.

Padding ...

I left it fairly late and got the 0836 from Peckham Rye, in which I
even got a seat.

I was wondering if D7666 might have something to say about the number
of short-formed trains on Thameslink this evening rush hour, just when
they are most likely to be in demand, but maybe it's normal.