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It's that time again folks:
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/gettingaround/17529.aspx

I'm going to post this as a quasi public service announcement if for
no other reason than having ballsed up the dates of the strike the
last time round I wish to demonstrate that I'm not completely
calendrical-phobic (to coin a particularly dodgy phrase!).

I'm sure there's a business opportunity here for canoeists on the
river or some such - of course if it gets really cold then skate hire
might be the thing.
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On Nov 26, 12:54*am, Mizter T wrote:
It's that time again folks:
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/gettingaround/17529.aspx

I'm going to post this as a quasi public service announcement if for
no other reason than having ballsed up the dates of the strike the
last time round I wish to demonstrate that I'm not completely
calendrical-phobic (to coin a particularly dodgy phrase!).

I'm sure there's a business opportunity here for canoeists on the
river or some such - of course if it gets really cold then skate hire
might be the thing.


Sigh - another morning of getting on the N73 at 04:25 again, and with
it being full up by Stamford Hill.
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Mizter T wrote:
I'm going to post this as a quasi public service announcement if for
no other reason than having ballsed up the dates of the strike the
last time round I wish to demonstrate that I'm not completely
calendrical-phobic (to coin a particularly dodgy phrase!).


While we're at it, have any further strike dates been announced? -- I
couldn't immediately find any info on the web.

-roy
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On Nov 26, 9:16*am, (Roy Badami) wrote:

While we're at it, have any further strike dates been announced?
I couldn't immediately find any info on the web.


In furtherance to this:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-11868952

---quote---
Tube strike: Union walkouts 'could escalate' in London

The fourth 24-hour strike over job cuts in London Underground ticket
offices has ended, with unions warning their walkouts could escalate
in 2011.

Industrial action lasting two or three days was possible in the New
Year, the Rail, Maritime and Transport (RMT) union and the Transport
Salaried Staffs' Association (TSSA) said.

But there would be no strikes over the Christmas period, they added.
[...continues...]
---/quote---


I dunno if that therefore rules out action on Boxing Day (26th), or
whether that doesn't count as it's a separate dispute. This is what
Bob Crow is reported to have said (in the above article):

"We are moving towards an escalation of the action in the New Year,
[...] I will not be recommending any action this side of 2 January,
but come 2011 we will have to consider escalating strikes to more than
one day."

So the Boxing Day strike might be off the cards then, but some two day-
ers could be what's on offer instead.
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On Nov 30, 1:23*am, Mizter T wrote:
On Nov 26, 9:16*am, (Roy Badami) wrote:



While we're at it, have any further strike dates been announced?
I couldn't immediately find any info on the web.


In furtherance to this:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-11868952

---quote---
Tube strike: Union walkouts 'could escalate' in London

The fourth 24-hour strike over job cuts in London Underground ticket
offices has ended, with unions warning their walkouts could escalate
in 2011.

Industrial action lasting two or three days was possible in the New
Year, the Rail, Maritime and Transport (RMT) union and the Transport
Salaried Staffs' Association (TSSA) said.

But there would be no strikes over the Christmas period, they added.
[...continues...]
---/quote---

I dunno if that therefore rules out action on Boxing Day (26th), or
whether that doesn't count as it's a separate dispute. This is what
Bob Crow is reported to have said (in the above article):

"We are moving towards an escalation of the action in the New Year,
[...] I will not be recommending any action this side of 2 January,
but come 2011 we will have to consider escalating strikes to more than
one day."

So the Boxing Day strike might be off the cards then, but some two day-
ers could be what's on offer instead.


As a matter of fact, what happens with regard to Oyster PAYG on strike
days. I only ask because I was going home yesterday (on the tube!!!,
so so much for London being in "lockdown" as per Mr Crow) and when the
train got to Seven Sisters there was an announcement that "Tottenham
Hale is closed, passengers for Tottenham Hale please alight here and
take bus no. 41". OK, that will get someone to Tottenham Hale without
too much inconvenience, but someone on Oyster PAYG would have to touch
out at Seven Sisters and touch in again on the no. 41 bus, thus
incurring an extra fare. It seems a little unfair that people are
being penalised in this way.



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On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 23:58:57 -0800 (PST), Paul
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OK, that will get someone to Tottenham Hale without
too much inconvenience, but someone on Oyster PAYG would have to touch
out at Seven Sisters and touch in again on the no. 41 bus, thus
incurring an extra fare. It seems a little unfair that people are
being penalised in this way.


Claim forms for overpayment to be sent to Mr R Crow, RMT?
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On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 17:23:43 -0800 (PST), Mizter T
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I dunno if that therefore rules out action on Boxing Day (26th), or
whether that doesn't count as it's a separate dispute.


Boxing Day is an ASLEF dispute over pay, so has nothing to do with Bob
Crow's pronouncements.
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"Ivor" wrote:

On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 17:23:43 -0800 (PST), Mizter T
wrote:

I dunno if that therefore rules out action on Boxing Day (26th), or
whether that doesn't count as it's a separate dispute.


Boxing Day is an ASLEF dispute over pay, so has nothing to do with Bob
Crow's pronouncements.


Thanks - a rather elementary error on my part, what with it being a
different union!

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On Nov 26, 6:02*pm, Paul Corfield wrote:

On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 09:16:02 GMT, (Roy Badami) wrote:

Mizter T wrote:
I'm going to post this as a quasi public service announcement if for
no other reason than having ballsed up the dates of the strike the
last time round I wish to demonstrate that I'm not completely
calendrical-phobic (to coin a particularly dodgy phrase!).


While we're at it, have any further strike dates been announced? I
couldn't immediately find any info on the web.


There are no further dates - there is a "gap" until the New Year as the
unions decided not to go on strike. Whether out of "goodwill" or the
expectation that the workers wouldn't come out due to the expense of
Christmas looming is not for me to say.


Or else just a bit of breathing space during which they hope TPTB will
capitulate? (Or, more to the point, both sides will reach some sort of
solution.)


The only possible actions relate to localised issues on the Bakerloo and
Northern Lines where RMT are, I believe, going to ballot their members
over alleged victimisation of certain individuals. With no ballot result
there can't be any dates yet. That's from what I read in the Standard
the other day.

The other rumbling issue relates to Boxing Day payments and that
involves ASLEF. *Again no dates and things seem to have gone a little
quiet on that front in terms of newspaper coverage.


To which my first reaction was 'no dates' - well the 26th, Boxing Day,
is a pertinent date - but yes IKWYM, no dates have been announced
w.r.t. a ballot on this issue.

Incidentally concerning something which appears to have been oft-said
already, I don't think for a moment that the unions would call a Tube
strike on The Hallowed Day Of The Royal Wedding - I think my eyes and
ears are likely to go on selective strike that week though!
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In article ,
Mizter T wrote:
It's that time again folks:
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/gettingaround/17529.aspx

I'm going to post this as a quasi public service announcement if for
no other reason than having ballsed up the dates of the strike the
last time round I wish to demonstrate that I'm not completely
calendrical-phobic (to coin a particularly dodgy phrase!).


And lest anyone was hoping for a last-minute reprieve:

"Monday Tube strike on after last-ditch talks collapse"

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standa...ks-collapse.do

http://preview.tinyurl.com/2vbmcyk



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