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My daughter went into town last week and used her Zip Oyster
throughout. She traveled from Cheam to Green Park (via Victoria), and returned to Worcester Park (then bus back to Cheam) due to the snow. Note: Southern trains ran a limited timetable on the Friday, and announced in the morning that trains would stop running shortly after 7pm. Separate gripe. The weather didn't get worse that day - in fact it got better - a service could have been maintained until much later - but I digress. My daughter ended up being charged the full £7.50 adult day travelcard rate (Z1-5). On doing some research, I discovered that Southern (and SWT) do not participate in Oyster discounts for such 'students' - so they are not fully signed up to Oyster. Secondly, if she had routed via Vauxhall (via a change at Clapham Junction) and not Victoria, she would have been charged about £1 less per train journey. Why? |
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Ken Wilshire wrote
My daughter went into town last week and used her Zip Oyster throughout. She traveled from Cheam to Green Park (via Victoria), and returned to Worcester Park (then bus back to Cheam) due to the snow. [...] service could have been maintained until much later - but I digress. My daughter ended up being charged the full £7.50 adult day travelcard rate (Z1-5). On doing some research, I discovered that Southern (and SWT) do not participate in Oyster discounts for such 'students' - so they are not fully signed up to Oyster. Secondly, if she had routed via Vauxhall (via a change at Clapham Junction) and not Victoria, she would have been charged about £1 less per train journey. Why? Do the research first ? http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tickets/14308.aspx == {half} the adult rate when you pay as you go on bus, Tube, tram, DLR, London Overground and some National Rail routes (PDF 229KB) == which means the rail routes that historically had U'ground ticket interavailability and excludes the "new" NR routes. and a solution, get a Railcard == Add a 16-25 NR Railcard discount entitlement to your 16+ Oyster photocard. This gives 34 per cent discount on off-peak pay as you go single fares when making journeys on London Overground, National Rail or through journeys to/from National Rail stations. It also gives you 34 percent discount on an off-peak daily price cap == The "via Vauxhall" easement is quite old, has been mentioned here and can of course be seen on the Single Fare finder (saving depends on peak/ off-peak). Keeps people out of a crowded Waterloo ? Quoting Tom Barry --: TfL Farefinder -- 17 December 2009 What is the Vauxhall/Elephant & Castle Easement ? One of the rules of Mornington Crescent, I believe. *hehe* It's a peculiarity of the £1.10 premium for using NR then TfL farescales into Z1 that if, when coming from outside Z2 you change to the tube at a Z2/Z1 border station it costs less (£5.00 instead of £6.00 from Z6, for instance). You effectively get paid a quid back for walking across the border (the £5 comes from adding Z6-Z2 NR = £3.20 to Z1-Z1 TfL = £1.80). {omitted discussion of other zones and other possibilities} == -- Mike D |
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