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On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 08:47:29 -0800 (PST), Sailor
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On 30 déc, 15:59, Jeff wrote:
On Dec 30, 10:28*am, Sailor wrote:


On 29 déc, 20:03, "Roger Traviss" wrote:


Here's an idea...get a 160 ton steam train fitted with a snow plough
that shifts the snow, and crunches the ice.


Apart from a distinct lack of 160 ton steam locos, the snow plough is not
going to get the ice off the conductor rail. *Great idea otherwise...


And you don't need a "160 ton steam train", or did he mean "locomotive"?


I thought it was only the media and the unwashed masses who didn't know the
difference between a train and a locomotive.


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Since Train is derived from the french "trainer" - to follow * what
noun should be applied to those strings of passenger vehicles
propelled by a locomotive but controlled from the leading vehicle?


Happy New Year!


Derived from is not the same as same as.
How does the OED define train?- Masquer le texte des messages précédents -

- Afficher le texte des messages précédents -


My only English Dictionary (they are so rare in France) indicates
train as "that which is drawn or follows" which of course is the
French definition of Train in proper French -- does the modified
Belgian version say otherwise? Do you see where my query
originates ! Can a DVT be said to draw a train propelled from the rear?

Shorter Oxford Dictionary -
"Train ^sb1 [...] III.[...] 8. A number of railway carriages, vans or
trucks coupled together (usually including the locomotive by which
they are drawn) 1824 "
which infers that being drawn by a locomotive etc. is not a certainty
(think of rope/gravity working).

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On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 22:30:06 +0000, Charles Ellson wrote:

Shorter Oxford Dictionary -
"Train ^sb1 [...] III.[...] 8. A number of railway carriages,
vans or trucks coupled together (usually including the
locomotive by which they are drawn) 1824 "


So single-carriage units like the Stourbridge PPM aren't trains! Does
that mean I don't need a valid ticket to travel in them...?
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On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 00:43:36 +0000 (UTC), solar penguin
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On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 22:30:06 +0000, Charles Ellson wrote:

Shorter Oxford Dictionary -
"Train ^sb1 [...] III.[...] 8. A number of railway carriages,
vans or trucks coupled together (usually including the
locomotive by which they are drawn) 1824 "


So single-carriage units like the Stourbridge PPM aren't trains!

Physically no, operationally yes in practice WRT anything done which
is blind to the number of vehicles in a train e.g. 2-5-5, 4-5-5; the
above is from about half a page of "train"s in the Shorter Oxford
Dictionary, the big one possibly goes into more detail WRT the
subtleties of railway operation.

Does
that mean I don't need a valid ticket to travel in them...?




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