On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 23:53:40 +0000,
wrote:
I take it you want it somewhere other than in your own back yard. ;-)
That's where you are wrong in my case I would love one in my own back
yard has you put it in fact to live a stones throw from HRW would
please me no end .
Let's just wait for a plane or two to demolish Slough
One did fall out of the sky a few years ago now over Slough if I am
not mistaken the captain didn't close the flaps or something after
taking off I think this is the one.
27/10/1965 London, UK VC-9 BEA Crew tiredness .
Lancs and Cheshire have many, many
farmers who'd like nothing more than to sell a few hundred acres and
retire without worries.
You think so did you not here about the big stink they all made when
the second runway was proposed at Manchester ? .
Personally, I'd bung in a fiver for demolition of 'The Swamp'
(Trafford Park, Salford and *outside* Manchester) to make way for a
new airport!
What's the point of building in the Manchester area the people in
North Lancashire and Cumbria would be no better provisioned regarding
access .
A much better place WOULD be right in my " back yard" the BAC
establisment at Salmlesbury nr Preston about 5 miles away from me
and if I am not mistaken I think a 747 has been down on there once
soon after they went into service .
Grant .

On Sun, 04 Jan 2004 03:21:58 +0000, G Crozier
wrote:

On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 23:53:40 +0000,
wrote:
I take it you want it somewhere other than in your own back yard. ;-)
That's where you are wrong in my case I would love one in my own back
yard has you put it in fact to live a stones throw from HRW would
please me no end .
Let's just wait for a plane or two to demolish Slough
One did fall out of the sky a few years ago now over Slough if I am
not mistaken the captain didn't close the flaps or something after
taking off I think this is the one.
27/10/1965 London, UK VC-9 BEA Crew tiredness .
Lancs and Cheshire have many, many
farmers who'd like nothing more than to sell a few hundred acres and
retire without worries.
You think so did you not here about the big stink they all made when
the second runway was proposed at Manchester ? .
Personally, I'd bung in a fiver for demolition of 'The Swamp'
(Trafford Park, Salford and *outside* Manchester) to make way for a
new airport!
What's the point of building in the Manchester area the people in
North Lancashire and Cumbria would be no better provisioned regarding
access .
A much better place WOULD be right in my " back yard" the BAC
establisment at Salmlesbury nr Preston about 5 miles away from me
and if I am not mistaken I think a 747 has been down on there once
soon after they went into service .
Grant .
PS the Captain's name of the BEA flight was Captain Stanley Key that I
am certain of .
Grant .

G Crozier wrote:
On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 23:53:40 +0000,
wrote:
Let's just wait for a plane or two to demolish Slough
One did fall out of the sky a few years ago now over Slough
if I am not mistaken

You are mistaken. It was over Staines.

the captain didn't close the flaps or something after
taking off I think this is the one.

The captain, or perhaps another member of the crew, prematurely closed the
leading-edge droops.

27/10/1965 London, UK

18 June 1972

VC-9 BEA

Trident

Crew tiredness .

The captain had a heart attack.

[from later post}
PS the Captain's name of the BEA flight was Captain
Stanley Key that I am certain of.

You got that bit right!

--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

On Sun, 04 Jan 2004 10:17:21 GMT, "Richard J."
wrote:
You are mistaken. It was over Staines.
I do beg your parden you are right it was a long time ago though.
The captain, or perhaps another member of the crew, prematurely closed the
leading-edge droops.
I know it was something of that nature ) .
Crew tiredness .
The captain had a heart attack.
Well the report stated Crew tiredness but I did think it was some
health problem and he had mentioned before boarding the plane that he
did not feel well but put it down to indigestion or something.
[from later post}
PS the Captain's name of the BEA flight was Captain
Stanley Key that I am certain of.
You got that bit right!
God only knows how or why I have hung on to that name all these
years !!.
Grant .

G Crozier wrote:
On Sun, 04 Jan 2004 10:17:21 GMT, "Richard J."
wrote:
You are mistaken. It was over Staines.
I do beg your parden you are right it was a long time ago though.
The captain, or perhaps another member of the crew, prematurely
closed the leading-edge droops.
I know it was something of that nature ) .
Crew tiredness .
The captain had a heart attack.
Well the report stated Crew tiredness

No, it didn't. It stated "No question of fatigue arises in this case."

but I did think it was some health problem and he had mentioned
before boarding the plane that he did not feel well but put it
down to indigestion or something.

The only reference in the Public Inquiry report to Captain Key saying that
he felt unwell was on another occasion mentioned by him in a letter 4
months previously. He probably did feel unwell during the flight that
crashed but there is no evidence that he revealed this at any time.

Rather than rely on your memory, I suggest you refer to the inquiry report
which is at
http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/group...cst?n=5250&l=4

--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)