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Age discrimination prevents one from requiring experience in a field?


No, it potentially prevents some advertisements from asking for it.

eg "Ten years post-gradudate experience in $foo" will discriminate
against most people under 31/32 years old.


But again, since when is requiring an applicant to be qualified
considered discrimination?

If you're hiring a bike messenger you're going to discriminate against
the blind. If you're hiring a bus driver you're going to discriminate
against those prone to seizures. If you're hiring a model for
children's clothing you're going to discriminate against adults. If
you're hiring a welder you're discriminating against those who don't
know how to weld.

Look, I get that actual discrimination is a problem, but at some point
you have to draw the line, otherwise Hooters is going to have to hire
me, and believe me when I tell you that *nobody* wants to see that!
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In message , at 17:12:46 on
Tue, 11 Jan 2011, DevilsPGD
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In message Roland Perry
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In message , at 00:34:24 on
Tue, 11 Jan 2011, DevilsPGD
remarked:

Age discrimination prevents one from requiring experience in a field?


No, it potentially prevents some advertisements from asking for it.

eg "Ten years post-gradudate experience in $foo" will discriminate
against most people under 31/32 years old.


But again, since when is requiring an applicant to be qualified
considered discrimination?


No-one has said that. The discrimination here is the implication that
only people aged 31/32 or older will be considered.

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In message Roland Perry
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In message , at 17:12:46 on
Tue, 11 Jan 2011, DevilsPGD
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In message Roland Perry
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In message , at 00:34:24 on
Tue, 11 Jan 2011, DevilsPGD
remarked:

Age discrimination prevents one from requiring experience in a field?

No, it potentially prevents some advertisements from asking for it.

eg "Ten years post-gradudate experience in $foo" will discriminate
against most people under 31/32 years old.


But again, since when is requiring an applicant to be qualified
considered discrimination?


No-one has said that. The discrimination here is the implication that
only people aged 31/32 or older will be considered.


No, the implication is that only those who are qualified will be
considered.

If a 22 year old shows up who has experience they'll be considered. If
a 32 year old shows up without experience, they won't.
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DevilsPGD wrote:

In message Roland Perry
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In message , at 17:12:46 on
Tue, 11 Jan 2011, DevilsPGD
remarked:
In message Roland Perry
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In message , at 00:34:24 on
Tue, 11 Jan 2011, DevilsPGD
remarked:

Age discrimination prevents one from requiring experience in a field?

No, it potentially prevents some advertisements from asking for it.

eg "Ten years post-gradudate experience in $foo" will discriminate
against most people under 31/32 years old.

But again, since when is requiring an applicant to be qualified
considered discrimination?


No-one has said that. The discrimination here is the implication that
only people aged 31/32 or older will be considered.


No, the implication is that only those who are qualified will be
considered.

If a 22 year old shows up who has experience they'll be considered. If
a 32 year old shows up without experience, they won't.


If I were you, I would bail out of this one now, otherwise you're just
inviting Roland to go on inventing increasingly unlikely and irrelevant
"what-if" scenarios which, by the second iteration, have lost all
contact with the original point.
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In message , at 10:58:06 on
Wed, 12 Jan 2011, Chris Tolley remarked:
If I were you, I would bail out of this one now, otherwise you're just
inviting Roland to go on inventing increasingly unlikely and irrelevant
"what-if" scenarios which, by the second iteration, have lost all
contact with the original point.


If I were you, Chris, I'd stop the ad hominem attacks, especially when
you are on such flimsy ground as here.
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In message , at 02:42:06 on
Wed, 12 Jan 2011, DevilsPGD
remarked:
Age discrimination prevents one from requiring experience in a field?

No, it potentially prevents some advertisements from asking for it.

eg "Ten years post-gradudate experience in $foo" will discriminate
against most people under 31/32 years old.

But again, since when is requiring an applicant to be qualified
considered discrimination?


No-one has said that. The discrimination here is the implication that
only people aged 31/32 or older will be considered.


No, the implication is that only those who are qualified will be
considered.

If a 22 year old shows up who has experience they'll be considered.


Given that the experience I used in my example was "ten years post
graduate", how many 12 year olds do you know with a degree, and who
started employment straight away?

That's why the "10 years" stipulation is age discrimination in disguise.

If a 32 year old shows up without experience, they won't.


Irrelevant.
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On 11 Jan 2011 19:12, DevilsPGD wrote:
Look, I get that actual discrimination is a problem, but at some point
you have to draw the line, otherwise Hooters is going to have to hire
me, and believe me when I tell you that *nobody* wants to see that!


IIRC, there a discrimination suit against Hooters, which resulted in
them hiring several male waiters in DC.

S

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