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In message Roland Perry
was claimed to have wrote: In message , at 00:34:24 on Tue, 11 Jan 2011, DevilsPGD remarked: Age discrimination prevents one from requiring experience in a field? No, it potentially prevents some advertisements from asking for it. eg "Ten years post-gradudate experience in $foo" will discriminate against most people under 31/32 years old. But again, since when is requiring an applicant to be qualified considered discrimination? If you're hiring a bike messenger you're going to discriminate against the blind. If you're hiring a bus driver you're going to discriminate against those prone to seizures. If you're hiring a model for children's clothing you're going to discriminate against adults. If you're hiring a welder you're discriminating against those who don't know how to weld. Look, I get that actual discrimination is a problem, but at some point you have to draw the line, otherwise Hooters is going to have to hire me, and believe me when I tell you that *nobody* wants to see that! |
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In message , at 17:12:46 on
Tue, 11 Jan 2011, DevilsPGD remarked: In message Roland Perry was claimed to have wrote: In message , at 00:34:24 on Tue, 11 Jan 2011, DevilsPGD remarked: Age discrimination prevents one from requiring experience in a field? No, it potentially prevents some advertisements from asking for it. eg "Ten years post-gradudate experience in $foo" will discriminate against most people under 31/32 years old. But again, since when is requiring an applicant to be qualified considered discrimination? No-one has said that. The discrimination here is the implication that only people aged 31/32 or older will be considered. -- Roland Perry |
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In message Roland Perry
was claimed to have wrote: In message , at 17:12:46 on Tue, 11 Jan 2011, DevilsPGD remarked: In message Roland Perry was claimed to have wrote: In message , at 00:34:24 on Tue, 11 Jan 2011, DevilsPGD remarked: Age discrimination prevents one from requiring experience in a field? No, it potentially prevents some advertisements from asking for it. eg "Ten years post-gradudate experience in $foo" will discriminate against most people under 31/32 years old. But again, since when is requiring an applicant to be qualified considered discrimination? No-one has said that. The discrimination here is the implication that only people aged 31/32 or older will be considered. No, the implication is that only those who are qualified will be considered. If a 22 year old shows up who has experience they'll be considered. If a 32 year old shows up without experience, they won't. |
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DevilsPGD wrote:
In message Roland Perry was claimed to have wrote: In message , at 17:12:46 on Tue, 11 Jan 2011, DevilsPGD remarked: In message Roland Perry was claimed to have wrote: In message , at 00:34:24 on Tue, 11 Jan 2011, DevilsPGD remarked: Age discrimination prevents one from requiring experience in a field? No, it potentially prevents some advertisements from asking for it. eg "Ten years post-gradudate experience in $foo" will discriminate against most people under 31/32 years old. But again, since when is requiring an applicant to be qualified considered discrimination? No-one has said that. The discrimination here is the implication that only people aged 31/32 or older will be considered. No, the implication is that only those who are qualified will be considered. If a 22 year old shows up who has experience they'll be considered. If a 32 year old shows up without experience, they won't. If I were you, I would bail out of this one now, otherwise you're just inviting Roland to go on inventing increasingly unlikely and irrelevant "what-if" scenarios which, by the second iteration, have lost all contact with the original point. -- http://gallery120232.fotopic.net/p9632844.html (33 038 at Eastleigh, 9 May 1985) |
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In message , at 10:58:06 on
Wed, 12 Jan 2011, Chris Tolley remarked: If I were you, I would bail out of this one now, otherwise you're just inviting Roland to go on inventing increasingly unlikely and irrelevant "what-if" scenarios which, by the second iteration, have lost all contact with the original point. If I were you, Chris, I'd stop the ad hominem attacks, especially when you are on such flimsy ground as here. -- Roland Perry |
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In message , at 02:42:06 on
Wed, 12 Jan 2011, DevilsPGD remarked: Age discrimination prevents one from requiring experience in a field? No, it potentially prevents some advertisements from asking for it. eg "Ten years post-gradudate experience in $foo" will discriminate against most people under 31/32 years old. But again, since when is requiring an applicant to be qualified considered discrimination? No-one has said that. The discrimination here is the implication that only people aged 31/32 or older will be considered. No, the implication is that only those who are qualified will be considered. If a 22 year old shows up who has experience they'll be considered. Given that the experience I used in my example was "ten years post graduate", how many 12 year olds do you know with a degree, and who started employment straight away? That's why the "10 years" stipulation is age discrimination in disguise. If a 32 year old shows up without experience, they won't. Irrelevant. -- Roland Perry |
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On 11 Jan 2011 19:12, DevilsPGD wrote:
Look, I get that actual discrimination is a problem, but at some point you have to draw the line, otherwise Hooters is going to have to hire me, and believe me when I tell you that *nobody* wants to see that! IIRC, there a discrimination suit against Hooters, which resulted in them hiring several male waiters in DC. S -- Stephen Sprunk "God does not play dice." --Albert Einstein CCIE #3723 "God is an inveterate gambler, and He throws the K5SSS dice at every possible opportunity." --Stephen Hawking |
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