On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:29:36 +0000, boltar2003 wrote:


I'm still wondering how the DLR running this service is an advantage
over the old NLL service. Seems to me all its done is spent a huge
amount of money and given people a long walk if they wish to continue
beyond stratford on the NLL. Its not as if getting to Stratford from the
east part of the DLR was hard before.


AIUI the _real_ reason for handing the line over to the DLR is that the
NLL's tunnels were needed for Crossrail, so the service had to be cut
anyway.

True, they could've terminated the NLL at West Ham or Canning Town
instead, but the new Overground was an unknown quantity, and the old
Silverlink NLL wasn't very known or well loved. At the time,bringing in
the DLR was thought to be the least worst option, especially since it
meant they could put it in with the Stratford International shuttle, and
kill two birds with one stone.

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On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 19:34:09 -0000
"Recliner" wrote:
respect, and apart from not being airconditioned, I prefer them to
378s (ie, more comfortable, more seats, much better views). The
performance is at least as good, and the capacity of a 3-carriage
DLR is more than a 4-car 378, and much more than a 313. And that's
before you get to the

Sorry , thats nonsense. At crush capacity you'll get far more in a 4
car 378.

The 3-carriage DLR train is a bit longer than a 4-car 378, but you may
be right about the crush capacity, as the 378 has fewer seats and
through gangways between all the cars. However, the 378 also seems to
have more equipment cabinets, so there probably isn't much difference in
the total passenger space. One other point is that DLR services are
usually more frequent, so if a packed train pulls in, it may be worth
waiting for the next one.

On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 12:23:52 -0000
"Recliner" wrote:
The 3-carriage DLR train is a bit longer than a 4-car 378, but you may
be right about the crush capacity, as the 378 has fewer seats and
through gangways between all the cars. However, the 378 also seems to
have more equipment cabinets, so there probably isn't much difference in
the total passenger space. One other point is that DLR services are

Don't forget the DLR trains have transverse seating which reduces standing
space and they're narrower than a 378.

B2003

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On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 12:23:52 -0000
"Recliner" wrote:
The 3-carriage DLR train is a bit longer than a 4-car 378, but you
may be right about the crush capacity, as the 378 has fewer seats and
through gangways between all the cars. However, the 378 also seems to
have more equipment cabinets, so there probably isn't much
difference in the total passenger space. One other point is that DLR
services are

Don't forget the DLR trains have transverse seating which reduces
standing space and they're narrower than a 378.

Yes, that's true, though I don't know if they're also narrower
internally (the 378s seem to suffer from your favourite thick walls
syndrome).

In article , wrote:
- A direct link to Stratford International

Which is used by precisely nobody.

I used Stratford International on Sunday, to get me to Canning Town
(High Speed 1 + Jubilee line) due to the DLR closures over the weekend.

If the DLR went to Stratford International then... erm... it would
probably have been closed for engineering work, too, so I wouldn't
have been able to use it anyway.

-roy

It's unlikely most people will go by car. One attempt will be enough to persuade them to shop elsewhere! And that's the danger, the real possibility that the whole Stratford development project will fail.

I live in Leyton about two miles away and I can assure you that Tfl have ruined the road system in Stratford. There are traffic lights every 25 yards and conflicting traffic flows have been re-introduced. (About 40 years ago a one way gyratory system was introduced to eliminate conflicting traffic movement and smooth traffic flow.)

On the the rare occasions I shop in Stratford I always go by tube.

On 2011\02\27 16:16, Robin9 wrote:

I live in Leyton about two miles away and I can assure you that Tfl have
ruined the road system in Stratford. There are traffic lights every 25
yards and conflicting traffic flows have been re-introduced. (About 40
years ago a one way gyratory system was introduced to eliminate
conflicting traffic movement and smooth traffic flow.)

The one way system was introduced when Stratford was the main route to
the A11 and A12. It became unnecessary when the new A12 opened.

People will have different ideas about what is necessary. I think reducing congestion and air pollution is necessary. Anti motor car fanatics disagree.

What is certain is that congestion around Stratford Station, Morrisons and the Broadway is blighting the area, has massively increased air pollution and will probably prevent Stratford from emerging from its present depressed state.

It will be interesting to see what TfL do during the Olympics. Whenever the Olympic Committee comes to Stratford to review progress, Tfl always re-phases the traffic lights to trick the Committee into believing Stratford has no traffic problems.