In article , (Roland
Perry) wrote:

In message , at 07:39:30 on Tue, 8
Feb 2011, Roland Perry remarked:

Meanwhile, I'll try the FCC in/out trick and see what happens

The chap manning the FCC barriers was convinced I'd be charged for
the In/Out *plus* a subsequent tube trip. But I tried it anyway.
Without looking at my online record, I think it docked me £4.20 for
the In/Out, then a credit of £2.50 when I touched out at the other
end of the LUL Z1 journey - so a total cost of £1.70

Huh? The Zone 1 Oyster fare is £1.90 now.

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Colin Rosenstiel

In message , at 18:44:44
on Tue, 8 Feb 2011, remarked:

Meanwhile, I'll try the FCC in/out trick and see what happens

The chap manning the FCC barriers was convinced I'd be charged for
the In/Out *plus* a subsequent tube trip. But I tried it anyway.
Without looking at my online record, I think it docked me £4.20 for
the In/Out, then a credit of £2.50 when I touched out at the other
end of the LUL Z1 journey - so a total cost of £1.70

Huh? The Zone 1 Oyster fare is £1.90 now.

It could have been £4.40 (then £2.50 credit). The numbers only flash up
for an instant. Of course it takes 48hrs for them to crawl onto the
online history, so I can't check it right away.

Where on this mind-bogglingly complex table should I be looking for what
FCC might have charged for the touch-in/touch out?

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tickets/14414.aspx
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Roland Perry

In message , at 08:00:27 on Wed, 9 Feb
2011, Roland Perry remarked:
Meanwhile, I'll try the FCC in/out trick and see what happens

The chap manning the FCC barriers was convinced I'd be charged for
the In/Out *plus* a subsequent tube trip. But I tried it anyway.
Without looking at my online record, I think it docked me £4.20 for
the In/Out, then a credit of £2.50 when I touched out at the other
end of the LUL Z1 journey - so a total cost of £1.70

Huh? The Zone 1 Oyster fare is £1.90 now.

It could have been £4.40 (then £2.50 credit). The numbers only flash up
for an instant. Of course it takes 48hrs for them to crawl onto the
online history, so I can't check it right away.

Here we are (read from bottom up):

13:57 St James's Park Exit £2.50
13:36 Kings Cross [London Underground / National Rail] Entry £0.00
13:33 St Pancras International [National Rail] Exit £0.00
13:33 St Pancras International [National Rail] Entry - £4.40
13:33 St Pancras International [National Rail] Top-up £5.00
13:33 St Pancras International [National Rail] Top-up £6.00

Interesting (and misleading) that my £6 refund appears as a "top-up".
I wonder if it would have qualified as an "online initiated top-up" for
the purposes of triggering (validating turning on) online journey
history. Or do they want a charge against a credit card to make sure
they "know who you are".

Where on this mind-bogglingly complex table should I be looking for
what FCC might have charged for the touch-in/touch out?

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tickets/14414.aspx

Z1-6 off-peak single.

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Roland Perry