At Kings cross a few weeks ago I saw some wooden boxes and then a week
later ticket barriers.

What is the purpose of the wood? Is it there to act as some sort of
matrix, or are the barriers slotted over it.
The wooden blocks does look a bit flimsy, how is it reinforced?

Does anyone know how these barriers are actually installed. They had a
similar setup on LU about 10 yrs ago when barriers were installed.

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(GSV 3 minds in a can) wrote:

At Kings cross a few weeks ago I saw some wooden boxes and then a week
later ticket barriers.

What is the purpose of the wood? Is it there to act as some sort of
matrix, or are the barriers slotted over it.
The wooden blocks does look a bit flimsy, how is it reinforced?

Does anyone know how these barriers are actually installed. They had a
similar setup on LU about 10 yrs ago when barriers were installed.

Can't answer your question but the barriers covering platforms 0-5 (as
they put it in PA announcements - 4 & 5 are currently out of commission)
and now in use.

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Colin Rosenstiel

On Feb 11, 12:49*pm, GSV 3 minds in a can wrote:
At Kings cross a few weeks ago I saw some wooden boxes and then a week
later ticket barriers.

What is the purpose of the wood? Is it there to act as some sort of
matrix, or are the barriers slotted over it.
The wooden blocks does look a bit flimsy, how is it reinforced?

Does anyone know how these barriers are actually installed. They had a
similar setup on LU about 10 yrs ago when barriers were installed.

If I remember correctly the wooden boxes are placed to protect the
wiring for the gates and are then removed when the gates are ready to
be installed. If it is a particularly large gate array being fitted
you will sometimes see a mixture of boxes and gates together.

On a slightly different note is there any way that this gateline can
plausibly cope with a crush loaded East Coast train arriving or is
this just a plot to make train travel as unpleasant as possible.

-roy

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(Roy Badami) wrote:

On a slightly different note is there any way that this gateline can
plausibly cope with a crush loaded East Coast train arriving or is
this just a plot to make train travel as unpleasant as possible.

As far as I can see the new Kings Cross layout has been designed by
control freaks. That's what I told the people exhibiting it the other day
anyway.

Making people arriving at the York Way entrance wanting to catch a train
walk all the way across the front of the station (and back if they want
platforms 0 or 1) is an outrage, especially as they won't know their
platform until they've walked past platform 8. Already the departures
screen that used to face that entrance has been removed.

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Colin Rosenstiel

In message , at 18:12:09
on Sat, 12 Feb 2011, remarked:
On a slightly different note is there any way that this gateline can
plausibly cope with a crush loaded East Coast train arriving or is
this just a plot to make train travel as unpleasant as possible.

As far as I can see the new Kings Cross layout has been designed by
control freaks. That's what I told the people exhibiting it the other day
anyway.

Making people arriving at the York Way entrance wanting to catch a train
walk all the way across the front of the station (and back if they want
platforms 0 or 1) is an outrage, especially as they won't know their
platform until they've walked past platform 8. Already the departures
screen that used to face that entrance has been removed.

The "new" Kings Cross has been designed around people arriving at the
station in the vicinity of the under-construction 'UFO upstairs' above
the Northern Ticket Hall, and then using the bridge to get to the
platforms, or a west-facing gate line a little west of platform 8 (under
the original west wall).

However, the three eastern-most gates in the line of gates along the
buffers are marked "in" on the plans; although in practice I suspect the
in/out-ness of the gates will be subject to short and long term change.
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Roland Perry

On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 17:59:47 -0600, Roy Badami wrote:

On a slightly different note is there any way that this gateline can
plausibly cope with a crush loaded East Coast train arriving or is this
just a plot to make train travel as unpleasant as possible.

Plenty of other stations are like that - a morning peak Shenfield train
coming into Liverpool St takes quite a while to get through the barriers.
I would doubt this would put Network Rail off at Kings Cross either.

In article , (Roland
Perry) wrote:

In message , at
18:12:09 on Sat, 12 Feb 2011, remarked:
On a slightly different note is there any way that this gateline can
plausibly cope with a crush loaded East Coast train arriving or is
this just a plot to make train travel as unpleasant as possible.

As far as I can see the new Kings Cross layout has been designed by
control freaks. That's what I told the people exhibiting it the other
day anyway.

Making people arriving at the York Way entrance wanting to catch a
train walk all the way across the front of the station (and back if
they want platforms 0 or 1) is an outrage, especially as they won't
know their platform until they've walked past platform 8. Already the
departures screen that used to face that entrance has been removed.

The "new" Kings Cross has been designed around people arriving at
the station in the vicinity of the under-construction 'UFO
upstairs' above the Northern Ticket Hall, and then using the bridge
to get to the platforms, or a west-facing gate line a little west
of platform 8 (under the original west wall).

However, the three eastern-most gates in the line of gates along
the buffers are marked "in" on the plans; although in practice I
suspect the in/out-ness of the gates will be subject to short and
long term change.

That is better than I was told by people running the various exhibitions I
have seen but still requires a screen showing departure information in
that area. So why remove the one that was there?

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Colin Rosenstiel

In message , at 13:01:21 on Sun, 13 Feb
2011, Martin Petrov remarked:

On a slightly different note is there any way that this gateline can
plausibly cope with a crush loaded East Coast train arriving or is this
just a plot to make train travel as unpleasant as possible.

Plenty of other stations are like that - a morning peak Shenfield train
coming into Liverpool St takes quite a while to get through the barriers.
I would doubt this would put Network Rail off at Kings Cross either.

And somewhat closer to home, a packed 8-car FCC arriving at Kings Cross
Suburban.
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Roland Perry

In message , at 07:07:29
on Sun, 13 Feb 2011, remarked:

However, the three eastern-most gates in the line of gates along
the buffers are marked "in" on the plans; although in practice I
suspect the in/out-ness of the gates will be subject to short and
long term change.

That is better than I was told by people running the various exhibitions I
have seen but still requires a screen showing departure information in
that area. So why remove the one that was there?

Maybe another will replace it, eventually.

[Was this a small screen, or do you mean the main multi-scrolling
screen(s)]
--
Roland Perry