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In article . li,
Tom Anderson wrote:
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On Sun, 27 Feb 2011, Mizter T wrote:

On Feb 27, 10:15*pm, Nick Leverton wrote:

In article i,
Tom Anderson wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011, Roland Perry wrote:

permission to double back at KGX

It's only for "Cambridge and beyond", so I suspect it's there
for the trains formerly known as Cambridge Cruiser.

Aha, noted. I got quite excited there for a minute!

You're not a Cambridge Cruiser then !


Did Mr A experience 'a moment of madness' just then...?


Oh, if that took my fancy, i have a far more convenient local venue for
it, and one where i can purchase a wide range of haberdashery and
household goods while i'm at it:

http://www.islingtongazette.co.uk/ne...int_1_7914 93


But the question is ... how much do they charge for a Travelcard ?!

Nick
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On Mar 1, 11:24*pm, Nick Leverton wrote:

In article . li,
Tom Anderson wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011, Mizter T wrote:


On Feb 27, 10:15 pm, Nick Leverton wrote:
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You're not a Cambridge Cruiser then !


Did Mr A experience 'a moment of madness' just then...?


Oh, if that took my fancy, i have a far more convenient local venue for
it, and one where i can purchase a wide range of haberdashery and
household goods while i'm at it:


http://www.islingtongazette.co.uk/ne...ay_is_gay_sex_...


But the question is ... how much do they charge for a Travelcard ?!


More to the point, a personal boundaries zonal extension (no need to
stop in the boundary zone either)?

(I shall desist going down the Oyster route here!)
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In message , at 21:23:49 on Tue, 1
Mar 2011, Clive D. W. Feather remarked:

[1] This reminds me of the "Not Stansted" tickets that WAGN's
Cambridge ticket office used to issue by default, when because of the
fares rule it was valid via Stansted[2] anyway. So no harm in them
selling the ticket, apart from the fact that passengers (and worse -
some grippers) are liable to take it at face value.


The one we met didn't.


I don't remember that incident, but I do recall explaining it to a
gripper who was featured in a contemporaneous WAGN fly-on-the-wall
documentary; there was plenty of time because they could check everyone
on a Cruiser in about ten minutes, then had the rest of the trip with
nothing to do but chat to passengers. They said they'd never had the
underlying rules explained to them before.

I think I also had a chat with someone selling the tickets at Cambridge
station and it seemed that when they pulled up Cambridge-London on the
screen there were several variants to choose from, but the "Not
Stansted" was the first (and thus default).
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"Roy Badami" wrote in message
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In article ,
Peter Smyth wrote:
So I think your second interpretation is correct and the Routeing Guide
does not have any power to ban you from using through trains or the
shortest route.


This FoI request seems to suggest otherwise:

http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/reques...l_rail_routein

The pertinent extracts:

Recently First Scotrail proposed changes to some local and middle
distance journeys involving the "Fife Circle" route that have been
approved by Transport Scotland. ATOC and Passenger Focus have approved
these too. Formal approval by the Secretary of State will shortly be
given and the changes incorporated into the NRG. Essentially these are
negative easements. [...] A negative easement however as in the
Scotrail application prevents for example, a journey from Edinburgh to
Rosyth (27 minutes and 14.75 miles apart) being made via Kirkcaldy
which takes over 70 minutes and is a trip of 52 miles which the
routeing guide would normally allow solely because it is a through
train providing the journey.


Another loop that springs to mind is the Cathcart circle. If you have just
missed a train and going round the long way gets you home faster than
waiting for the next train along the shorter route then what's the problem?

John

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In message , at 12:02:13 on
Thu, 3 Mar 2011, John C remarked:
Another loop that springs to mind is the Cathcart circle. If you have
just missed a train and going round the long way gets you home faster
than waiting for the next train along the shorter route then what's the
problem?


I live about 1/3 of the way round[1] a circular bus route, and might
also find this effect kicks in, because the frequency is only every half
hour. Tickets allow travel either way, though.

[1] compared to where the shops are on the route.
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