In message , at 10:53:28
on Fri, 11 Mar 2011, David Cantrell remarked:
Pay wave can only be used for a purchase of up to £15 (only recently
increased from £10), so it's not really suitable for purchasing multiple
tickets.

No? It would cover 7 adult singles between Victoria and Paddington.

You'd only get two typical Travelcards (in one transaction). But I don't
think anyone is suggesting that TfL are upgrading their ticket machines
to take Paywave - they've had three years to do that and no sign of it.
--
Roland Perry

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
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In message , at 19:34:12 on Thu, 10 Mar
2011, tim.... remarked:

But if there's a woman in your life, and Boots just happens to be the
local store, then the points will mount up quite quickly, I assure you!

Yeah, but what do *you* need a card?

We popped in the other day and bought about £6 worth of stuff using points
from the card.

still doesn't help :-(

If you popped in together surely you could have used her card

tim

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
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In message , at 19:33:30 on Thu, 10 Mar
2011, tim.... remarked:
just how inconvenient is it to push a few buttons on a ticket machine?

Very, if you'd had to wait ten minutes for the privilege.

How is a 10 minute wait "very inconvenient", for a family with children -
they are hardly going to detrain from Eurostar and need to be, wherever,
in
30 minutes!

Just shows what different standards you seem to have.

Not sure what you are suggesting.

tim

"David Cantrell" wrote in message
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On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 07:33:30PM -0000, tim.... wrote:
"Roland Perry" wrote in message
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just how inconvenient is it to push a few buttons on a ticket machine?
Very, if you'd had to wait ten minutes for the privilege.
How is a 10 minute wait "very inconvenient", for a family with children -
they are hardly going to detrain from Eurostar and need to be, wherever,
in
30 minutes!

Oh, of course, families don't have other trains to catch. I'd forgotten
about that.

I really don't see what all this nit picking is about.

Firstly people criticise the system because it won't be possible to pass two
(or more) people on the one card and the complaint that most people aren't
going to have enough cards for each of their children to have one each (and
at least one person suggested that even if he did have a spare card for his
child to use, he wouldn't "trust" his child with it!)

So I asked why you would want to pay "full fare" for your child anyway,
given that you could go and buy a ticket and people start complaining that
the queues at LT counters are too long, so I suggested buying the ticket
from an NR machine. Then the problem is that these are too far away to be
useful (not at Waterloo they aren't!).

So this problem with queuing only occurs at St P and I say what's the
problem with queuing here anyway, you not going to be in a hurry to get
somewhere having just got off E* and everyone thinks that it's me being
unreasonable.

The problem that you have set yourself is:

1) You DON'T have a wave and pay card for your child to use.
2) You DON'T want to queue up because it is going to take too long.
3) You DON'T want to go to the NR ticket machine because it's too far to
walk.

Guys, HOW THE **** do you suggest that we solve this problem of getting your
child a ticket, given that you all vetoed all of mine!

tim

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
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In message , at 10:53:28
on Fri, 11 Mar 2011, David Cantrell remarked:
Pay wave can only be used for a purchase of up to £15 (only recently
increased from £10), so it's not really suitable for purchasing multiple
tickets.

No? It would cover 7 adult singles between Victoria and Paddington.

You'd only get two typical Travelcards (in one transaction). But I don't
think anyone is suggesting that TfL are upgrading their ticket machines to
take Paywave - they've had three years to do that and no sign of it.
--
Roland Perry

I would not be totally sure about that. Visa have said they want the
Olympics to be "cashless" and seem to be pushing the adoption of Paywave
with the connivance of the ODA. They haven't got far yet but I suspect
you'll see some activity in the near future. There is an article in this
weeks Computing
http://www.computing.co.uk/ctg/opini...hless-olympics
not that it mentions TfL at all.

In message , at 13:01:23 on Fri, 11 Mar
2011, tim.... remarked:

just how inconvenient is it to push a few buttons on a ticket machine?

Very, if you'd had to wait ten minutes for the privilege.

How is a 10 minute wait "very inconvenient", for a family with children -
they are hardly going to detrain from Eurostar and need to be, wherever,
in
30 minutes!

Just shows what different standards you seem to have.

Not sure what you are suggesting.

You must be a very patient person if you can wait ten minutes to buy a
ticket with a family just arrived on holiday and champing at the bit.
--
Roland Perry

In message , at 13:32:14 on
Fri, 11 Mar 2011, Graham Harrison
remarked:
You'd only get two typical Travelcards (in one transaction). But I
don't think anyone is suggesting that TfL are upgrading their ticket
machines to take Paywave - they've had three years to do that and no
sign of it.

I would not be totally sure about that. Visa have said they want the
Olympics to be "cashless" and seem to be pushing the adoption of
Paywave with the connivance of the ODA. They haven't got far yet but
I suspect you'll see some activity in the near future. There is an
article in this weeks Computing
http://www.computing.co.uk/ctg/opini...hless-olympics
not that it mentions TfL at all.

Every Olympic ticket comes bundled with a travelcard, apparently, so
there's no buying of fares required at all.

Except perhaps from taxis, but can the Olympic Committee force them all
to only take Visa, and only Paywave? I doubt it.
--
Roland Perry

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
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In message , at 13:32:14 on Fri,
11 Mar 2011, Graham Harrison
remarked:
You'd only get two typical Travelcards (in one transaction). But I don't
think anyone is suggesting that TfL are upgrading their ticket machines
to take Paywave - they've had three years to do that and no sign of it.

I would not be totally sure about that. Visa have said they want the
Olympics to be "cashless" and seem to be pushing the adoption of Paywave
with the connivance of the ODA. They haven't got far yet but I suspect
you'll see some activity in the near future. There is an article in this
weeks Computing
http://www.computing.co.uk/ctg/opini...hless-olympics
not that it mentions TfL at all.

Every Olympic ticket comes bundled with a travelcard, apparently, so
there's no buying of fares required at all.

Except perhaps from taxis, but can the Olympic Committee force them all to
only take Visa, and only Paywave? I doubt it.
--
Roland Perry

Visa is the official card of the Olympics and the only card accepted for
purchase of tickets for a start. As I understand they will also be the
only card accepted inside the Olympic sites. So while they can't force
anyone outside the Olympics to use Paywave they will be building a head of
steam.

Anyway, I'm not saying it WILL happen just that things may be more advanced
than you seem to think.

In message , at 14:13:12 on
Fri, 11 Mar 2011, Graham Harrison
remarked:
Anyway, I'm not saying it WILL happen just that things may be more
advanced than you seem to think.

But there's also no need to advance that particular programme [TfL
taking paywave at ticket machines] just because of the Olympics.
--
Roland Perry

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
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In message , at 13:01:23 on Fri, 11 Mar
2011, tim.... remarked:

just how inconvenient is it to push a few buttons on a ticket machine?

Very, if you'd had to wait ten minutes for the privilege.

How is a 10 minute wait "very inconvenient", for a family with
children -
they are hardly going to detrain from Eurostar and need to be, wherever,
in
30 minutes!

Just shows what different standards you seem to have.

Not sure what you are suggesting.

You must be a very patient person if you can wait ten minutes to buy a
ticket with a family just arrived on holiday and champing at the bit.

But what choice do you have?

Dodge the fare?

This isn't a discussion about whether TfL should do something about queues
at St P.

It's about what type of tickets they should sell. And the fact is that
every type of ticket that is available for a "foreign" child requires you to
get to the front of that (or an alternative) queue.

I quite happy to discuss suggestions that there should be alternative child
tickets to those which are currently available. But, so far no-one has
suggested that

tim