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JNugent wrote:
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To refresh your memory of GH's post - " the reality is that
approximately 15% of the land within 1 hours commute of charring
cross is built on."

Thank you, but there was no need at all to take the trouble. Charing Cross
is a phrase used to represent Central London, and the post effectively meant
that *SE England* is only 15% built-up.

Er, no. It makes the claim that of the land within an hours commute
of central London, about 15% is built up.

Areas within an hours commute of central london by car include
Putney (6 miles) but not a great deal futher out than that, I'd've
thought. If you're lucky enough to work flexitime (so you can miss
the worst of the peak), it might include Sevenoaks (30 miles). It
certainly does not include Alton in Hants (50 miles).

I therefore think that the claim that is wrong.

In such conditions (as I'm sure you
know) a 60 mile commute inside an hour is not impossible. Indeed, *I*
frequently do a 67 mile journey (not in London of course, but certainly in
SE England) in about 70 minutes - during the morning and evening peaks, too.

Yes, that's nice, but it is irrelevant when talking about being an
hours commute from central london.

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That doesn't militate against what Peter wrote.

He didn't say they were there all the time (and those of us that live and
work in or near to agricultural areas know that what you both have said is
true).

Yeah, both points are valid. It depends on the area. Lincolnshire, i.e
Spalding locality, and Norfolk tend to have all year roundcrop
production unlike up here.


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In the nearest town?
Just a suggestion...

They still can't really afford one on £12k.

What can you raise on a 12K salary?

£35,000 - £40,000?

You can still get a terraced house for that oop narth, can't you?

Not in East Yorkshire. You might do in Hull but you'll need to install
bars on the windows BEFORE you move in.


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Conor wrote:
In article ,
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In the nearest town?

Just a suggestion...

They still can't really afford one on £12k.

Tough - work hard and save until you can.

You can work as hard as you like. If the wages are low it makes no
difference.

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Conor

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JNugent wrote:
wrote:

JNugent wrote:

wrote:

JNugent wrote:

It was Maggie and co that forced an end to tied
housing.

Sheer, biased, blinkered, knee-jerk, nonsense.
The tied cottage was being "phased out" (pilloried as a
social anachronism) decades before 1979.
S'funny, that.
Had the tied cottages remained in their original use,
there'd be less need for hand-wringing over the housing
fate of agricultural workers, wouldn't there?

I didn't say it wasn't on the way out, I merely made the
point that Thatcher forced it to end. A subtle but
distinct difference that is obviously lost on you.

The more so because it was a lie.

So it wasn't a Thatcher government the introduced the
"Right to Buy" legislation then?

No.

As you would know (if you were not simply motivated by
unthinking knee-jerk socialism - if you'll forgive the
tautology), the RTB:

Whether you choose to believe it or not some people in this world are not
driven by ideology or dogma but are cpable of establishing the facts for
themselves and making up their own minds.

(a) was introduced under the Edward Heath government of
1970-1974,

Wrong (again)
"The statutory Right To Buy was introduced on the 3rd October 1980 in
England, Wales and Scotland."
http://www.parliament.uk/commons/lib...9/rp99-036.pdf

and (b) only applied to council houses - and
certainly not to tied cottages on farms.

Your evidence is from?


Try again?

Feel free so to do.

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My prediction is that if built, they will be filled with exactly the same
sort of tenants as current social housing and that the whole thing is a
gerrymandering smokescreen.

Exactly my thoughts too. The next few years will be interesting. I
wonder how many more houses they'll suddenly find they'll need.



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Greg Hennessy wrote:
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 01:26:29 +0000 (UTC), "Cast_Iron"
wrote:


If you can't understand your own posts and responses to
them I suggest you go to school and learn.



I can fully understand my posts, unlike the emoting idiot
who is drawing inferences where none clearly exist.



No emotion in my posts, talking about or to yourself again?

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Conor wrote:

Given the that the increased road congestion in Friday and Sunday
evenings is caused by many people going and from to their country
cottages for the weekend, isn't it time that second homes attracted a
punative rate of council tax?

Just how congested are the roads on Friday and Sunday evenings?
UIVMM they're far from the busiest times!

I drive nights down the A1/M1. On a Friday it is way busier than any
other night.

Of course it is, but isn't that just because other nights are quiet? How
does it compare with daytime traffic levels?

Don't know, haven't done daytime driving for a few years now. The times
I'm talking about are from 7pm-9pm (ish) and it is suprising how much
of a difference in traffic levels there is on the northbound side.

Apart from a few roads in city centers, are any roads really congested
at night? And are any likely to become so in the next ten years?

The M6 northbound in Birmingham tends to be when they're doing night
roadworks.

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Conor

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Cast_Iron wrote:

Was it and it is now better in what way do you think?

In every way possible.

Really? I suppose the railways are better than they used to be?
Especially in respect to track maintenance.

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Conor

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JNugent wrote:
wrote:

To refresh your memory of GH's post - " the reality is that
approximately 15% of the land within 1 hours commute of
charring
cross is built on."

Thank you, but there was no need at all to take the
trouble. Charing Cross is a phrase used to represent
Central London, and the post effectively meant that *SE
England* is only 15% built-up. In such conditions (as I'm
sure you know) a 60 mile commute inside an hour is not
impossible. Indeed, *I* frequently do a 67 mile journey
(not in London of course, but certainly in SE England) in
about 70 minutes - during the morning and evening peaks,
too.

But apparently, that's not possible...


As with all things it depends on the start and end points. In this instance
Charing Cross was cited as the reference point from which a one hour commute
by car will take the individual a maximum of ten miles, on a good day.