"Silk" wrote in message
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Oliver Keating wrote:


but the working class have
remained pretty much static, they haven't shared in the growth at all.

That's probably because they're lazy whingebags.

The worst ones are the working class who imagine their new money makes them
middle class.

Conor wrote:


Dairy.

Except the bit about making hay for the cattle to eat in the winter,
that is.

Conor wrote:


My solution? Stop their benefits.

But, you keep telling us there's no work. Make your mind up.

Purditer wrote:


The worst ones are the working class who imagine their new money makes them
middle class.

Not as bad as the career dole scroungers who think they are working class.

"Silk" wrote in message
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Purditer wrote:


The worst ones are the working class who imagine their new money makes
them
middle class.

Not as bad as the career dole scroungers who think they are working class.

and no one is as bad as Bob Crow.

Purditer wrote:


and no one is as bad as Bob Crow.

Who?

Cast_Iron wrote:


Ah at last, the standard "**** you Jack, I'm OK" attitude.


It's **** or be ****ed, unfortunately. That's why we are supposed to
have governments and leaders to guide us.

"Silk" wrote in message
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Conor wrote:

Dairy.

Except the bit about making hay for the cattle to eat in the winter,
that is.

If the cattle were having grass and hay rather than
feed/concentrates, which season is for hay making?

"Silk" wrote in message
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Purditer wrote:


and no one is as bad as Bob Crow.

Who?

General Secretary of the RMT

JNugent wrote:
wrote:

JNugent wrote:

wrote:


It was Maggie and co that forced an end to tied
housing.

Sheer, biased, blinkered, knee-jerk, nonsense.

[ ... ]

So it wasn't a Thatcher government the introduced the
"Right to Buy" legislation then?

No.
As you would know (if you were not simply motivated by
unthinking knee-jerk socialism - if you'll forgive the
tautology), the RTB:

(a) was introduced under the Edward Heath government of
1970-1974

Whether you choose to believe it or not some people in
this world are
not driven by ideology or dogma but are cpable of
establishing the
facts for themselves and making up their own minds.

You can't just "make up your own mind [sic]" to fabricate
history. The RTB council houses (for tenatnts of councils)
was established in the early 1970s under the Heath
government. That's a fact. Stamping your foot won't make it
untrue.

Wrong (again)
"The statutory Right To Buy was introduced on the 3rd
October 1980 in England, Wales and Scotland."
http://www.parliament.uk/commons/lib...9/rp99-036.pdf

Don't believe everything you believe in Labour government
propaganda. Even the paper you have cited makes it clear
that this was a *statutory* scheme (my emphasis). There are
other sorts of scheme.

The RTB was introduced under Edward Heath, but with a
(major) flaw - councils didn't *have* to comply (they could
adopt a policy of not selling). Of course, this was still
better than the previous situation, where a council
couldn't sell even if they wanted to. In effect, it was
mainly Conservative councils that allowed their tenants to
buy under the Heath legislation. Changes in council control
could mean a change in sales policy (either way) - very
unsatisfactory for tenants wishing to buy. That flaw was
corrected under Thatcher, but the RTB was first established
under Heath (and believe me, the Labour Party squawked
enough about it at the time).

So there was no "right to buy", merely that the council could sell if they
so chose.


and (b) only applied to council houses - and
certainly not to tied cottages on farms.

Your evidence is from?

Re-read your own citation - you will see (if you read it)
that it applies only to council properties (there has never
been a right to force a private landlord to sell -
leaseholds of certain blocks of flats excepted). Even
housing association tenants find that the RTB (rather
unfairly, IMHO) doesn't apply to them.

Why should people in Council or other housing have the right to buy and
preclude someone else who needs a low rent place to live from have the
advantage that the buyer has had? Why not create a scheme in which long term
council tenants can get assistance to buy a house on the open market?