"Cast_Iron" wrote in message
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"Silk" wrote in message
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Oliver Keating wrote:

1) Social justice

People who are not prepared to work should get no money. That's social
justice.


What about people who want to but are not allowed to?

Which ones would they be? I honestly can't think of anyone who wants work
but isn't allowed to. I can think of situations where it isn't worth
people's while working, but only on an anecdotal basis.

"Mikael Armstrong" wrote in message
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"Conor" wrote in message
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Well I'm sure permission could be granted for the construction of a
few
extra houses to satisfy some of the demand.

Nope. Govt policy on greenfield sites.

We know that! But perhaps that is the policy which should be modified! Not
the taxation one.

Don't be daft, you'd upset the residents of the village...

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Conor wrote:


We have entire villages where the only locally born people there are
those who bought their homes decades ago and never moved.

And they probably own the local pub and shop.

Nope. THe local shop closed down because non of the new residents used
it.


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Conor

"Cogito Eggo Sum" - "I think, therefore I am a waffle"

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Do disagree that agricultural workers are often bussed in from cities then?

Yep. They're only bussed in during harvest time in labour intensive
situations such as potato harvesting where they do the sizing. You
don't find many on farms outside of that.


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Conor

"Cogito Eggo Sum" - "I think, therefore I am a waffle"

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This very different from what you usually tell us about house prices up
north.

Why is that?

Even with the 100% increase they're still cheap compared to most of the
rest of England. It is still possible to buy a 3 bed house for £70,000
in Driffield but that's still above alot of peoples incomes here.


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Conor

"Cogito Eggo Sum" - "I think, therefore I am a waffle"

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In the nearest town?

Just a suggestion...

They still can't really afford one on £12k.


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Conor

"Cogito Eggo Sum" - "I think, therefore I am a waffle"

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Um, people _do_ want to live in London, and there are 100,000 new homes
propesed. What is the problem with that?

And those would be the low cost housing which they've been forced to
implement because essential workers can't afford to live there?

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Conor

"Cogito Eggo Sum" - "I think, therefore I am a waffle"

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Cast_Iron wrote:

Given the that the increased road congestion in Friday and Sunday evenings
is caused by many people going and from to their country cottages for the
weekend, isn't it time that second homes attracted a punative rate of
council tax?

Just how congested are the roads on Friday and Sunday evenings?
UIVMM they're far from the busiest times!

I drive nights down the A1/M1. On a Friday it is way busier than any
other night.

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Conor

"Cogito Eggo Sum" - "I think, therefore I am a waffle"

"Doki" wrote in message
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"Cast_Iron" wrote in message
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"Silk" wrote in message
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Oliver Keating wrote:

1) Social justice

People who are not prepared to work should get no money. That's social
justice.


What about people who want to but are not allowed to?

Which ones would they be? I honestly can't think of anyone who wants work
but isn't allowed to. I can think of situations where it isn't worth
people's while working, but only on an anecdotal basis.



Such people might include (but without excluding anyone else) somone who
needs to change occupation because a disability has set in. That person has
the skills for the new occupation/s s/he wants to take up but because s/he
hasn't used those skills in a full-time job no prospective employer will
give him/her a chance.

"Doki" wrote in message
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"Oliver Keating" wrote in message
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2) It would actually be impossible to raise enough revenue if everyone
was
taxed to the same %age because the rich provide a disproportionately
large
chunk of revenue.

But if you reduce the tax burden surely you encourage enterprise, which
moves more money around the economy and thus you still get your tax. I am
not an economist, but AFAIK there are still arguments about high vs low
tax
. The rich will always provide you with more revenue per capita as
they're
spending and earning more cash.

That was Thatcher's theory, it didn't work.