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Oliver Keating wrote:

1) Social justice


People who are not prepared to work should get no money. That's social
justice.


What about people who want to but are not allowed to?


Which ones would they be? I honestly can't think of anyone who wants work
but isn't allowed to. I can think of situations where it isn't worth
people's while working, but only on an anecdotal basis.


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Oliver Keating wrote:

1) Social justice

People who are not prepared to work should get no money. That's social
justice.


What about people who want to but are not allowed to?


Which ones would they be? I honestly can't think of anyone who wants work
but isn't allowed to. I can think of situations where it isn't worth
people's while working, but only on an anecdotal basis.



Such people might include (but without excluding anyone else) somone who
needs to change occupation because a disability has set in. That person has
the skills for the new occupation/s s/he wants to take up but because s/he
hasn't used those skills in a full-time job no prospective employer will
give him/her a chance.


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Cast_Iron wrote:
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Oliver Keating wrote:

1) Social justice

People who are not prepared to work should get no money. That's
social justice.


What about people who want to but are not allowed to?


Which ones would they be? I honestly can't think of anyone who wants
work but isn't allowed to. I can think of situations where it isn't
worth people's while working, but only on an anecdotal basis.



Such people might include (but without excluding anyone else) somone
who needs to change occupation because a disability has set in. That
person has the skills for the new occupation/s s/he wants to take up
but because s/he hasn't used those skills in a full-time job no
prospective employer will give him/her a chance.


So they do any job they are able until a suitable job appears.
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MrBitsy


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Oliver Keating wrote:

1) Social justice

People who are not prepared to work should get no money. That's
social justice.


What about people who want to but are not allowed to?

Which ones would they be? I honestly can't think of anyone who wants
work but isn't allowed to. I can think of situations where it isn't
worth people's while working, but only on an anecdotal basis.



Such people might include (but without excluding anyone else) somone
who needs to change occupation because a disability has set in. That
person has the skills for the new occupation/s s/he wants to take up
but because s/he hasn't used those skills in a full-time job no
prospective employer will give him/her a chance.


So they do any job they are able until a suitable job appears.
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And if no one will gve them a job because of "lack of experience"?


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Cast_Iron wrote:
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Cast_Iron wrote:
"Doki" wrote in message
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Oliver Keating wrote:

1) Social justice

People who are not prepared to work should get no money. That's
social justice.


What about people who want to but are not allowed to?

Which ones would they be? I honestly can't think of anyone who
wants work but isn't allowed to. I can think of situations where
it isn't worth people's while working, but only on an anecdotal
basis.



Such people might include (but without excluding anyone else) somone
who needs to change occupation because a disability has set in. That
person has the skills for the new occupation/s s/he wants to take up
but because s/he hasn't used those skills in a full-time job no
prospective employer will give him/her a chance.


So they do any job they are able until a suitable job appears.
--


And if no one will gve them a job because of "lack of experience"?


Its a tough world.

I finished University after 4 years learning about software engineering.
First job was installing PC's in peoples homes for Comet and Dixons. Didn't
dream of whinging about it. Here I am five years later writing software for
a living.

People like to be poor and moan about it. So many of em can't be bothered to
do something about it, they expect everything on a plate.


--
MrBitsy




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On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 04:07:37 +0000, Doki wrote:

Which ones would they be? I honestly can't think of anyone who wants work
but isn't allowed to. I can think of situations where it isn't worth
people's while working, but only on an anecdotal basis.


Asylum seekers?

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Mark Scott wrote:

Asylum seekers?


It's ironic, isn't it. It's okay for "our" people to sit on their
parasitic arses, but not okay for willing foreigners to do the work no
one else is willing to.

My solution: One assylum seeler gets to stay; one lazy ******* gets sent
to Afghanistan. Problem solved.

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"Doki" wrote in message
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"Cast_Iron" wrote in message
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Oliver Keating wrote:

1) Social justice

People who are not prepared to work should get no money. That's social
justice.


What about people who want to but are not allowed to?


Which ones would they be? I honestly can't think of anyone who wants work
but isn't allowed to. I can think of situations where it isn't worth
people's while working, but only on an anecdotal basis.


Its only very recently that we have almost full employment, and there are
still places where jobs aren't dead easy to get.




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