wrote:

JNugent wrote:

The previous question was "Are you suggesting that there are open
fields within that area?" ("that area" being a one-hour commute from
Charing Cross). There are plenty of open fields in "that area", and
my response about being able to travel 60 miles in an hour in "that
area" would reflect that even literally, but in any case, the PP's
question was not about agriculture but was about whether you can get
outside the inner London built-up area within an hour, and you can.

Well in that case I owe Robin (and others) an apology: Sorry, I
assumed JNugent's statement was sensible and inconsistent. It appears
I was wrong on both counts.

(Except possibly if he's referring to commuting in the small hours and
is prepared to risk getting gatsoed).

A. Who is "Robin"?

B. What is wrong with the statement: "The previous question was "Are you
suggesting that there are open fields within that area?" ("that area" being
a one-hour commute from Charing Cross). There are plenty of open fields in
"that area", and my response about being able to travel 60 miles in an hour
in "that area" would reflect that even literally, but in any case, the PP's
question was not about agriculture but was about whether you can get outside
the inner London built-up area within an hour, and you can"?

You see (as has already been explained by more than one poster), the
"commuting" in question was *not* limited to commuting by car - a minor
detail which you failed to observe and which you allowed to completely
mislead you.

JNugent wrote:

wrote:

JNugent wrote:

The previous question was "Are you suggesting that there are open
fields within that area?" ("that area" being a one-hour commute from
Charing Cross). There are plenty of open fields in "that area", and
my response about being able to travel 60 miles in an hour in "that
area" would reflect that even literally, but in any case, the PP's
question was not about agriculture but was about whether you can get
outside the inner London built-up area within an hour, and you can.

Well in that case I owe Robin (and others) an apology: Sorry, I
assumed JNugent's statement was sensible and inconsistent. It appears
I was wrong on both counts.

(Except possibly if he's referring to commuting in the small hours and
is prepared to risk getting gatsoed).

A. Who is "Robin"?

Robin May.

B. What is wrong with the statement: "The previous question was "Are you
suggesting that there are open fields within that area?" ("that area" being
a one-hour commute from Charing Cross). There are plenty of open fields in
"that area", and my response about being able to travel 60 miles in an hour
in "that area" would reflect that even literally, but in any case, the PP's
question was not about agriculture but was about whether you can get outside
the inner London built-up area within an hour, and you can"?

You see (as has already been explained by more than one poster), the
"commuting" in question was *not* limited to commuting by car - a minor
detail which you failed to observe and which you allowed to completely
mislead you.

Except that you then wrote:
: A one hour journey by car can take one (easily) up to 60 miles (probably
: not a lot more, unless one lives adjacent to a motorway interchange).
:
: So what are you talking about?

Robin (and everyone else) took that to mean that you were limiting it to
commuting by car. I initially took it to mean that you'd missed the point
of the question you were responding to, but you appeared to deny it in the
article I was responding to (id ) so
either you're being deliberately misleading or you missed the point and
forgot that you did!

I suspect the former.

wrote:

JNugent wrote:

A. Who is "Robin"?

Robin May.

OK.

His post has now aged off my drive.

B. What is wrong with the statement: "The previous question was "Are
you suggesting that there are open fields within that area?" ("that
area" being a one-hour commute from Charing Cross). There are plenty
of open fields in "that area", and my response about being able to
travel 60 miles in an hour in "that area" would reflect that even
literally, but in any case, the PP's question was not about
agriculture but was about whether you can get outside the inner
London built-up area within an hour, and you can"?

You see (as has already been explained by more than one poster), the
"commuting" in question was *not* limited to commuting by car - a
minor detail which you failed to observe and which you allowed to
completely mislead you.

Except that you then wrote:
A one hour journey by car can take one (easily) up to 60 miles
(probably not a lot more, unless one lives adjacent to a motorway
interchange).

Indeed. But the car journey to which I was referring was a journey *within
the area within a one hour commute from Central London* (ie, within a huge
swathe of the Home Counties, probably reaching to the coast on some railway
lines) - not the commuting journey itself. Nor did I claim otherwise. The
point was made in order to show that the SE of England (outside London and
immdiate environs) is not as crowded as *some* people claim it to be (though
no-one sensible - except Greg Hennessy - wants it to be any more crowded
than it is).

Robin (and everyone else) took that to mean that you were limiting it
to commuting by car.

Their error, I fear, since I did not claim that - did I?

I initially took it to mean that you'd missed
the point of the question you were responding to, but you appeared to
deny it in the article I was responding to (id
) so either you're being
deliberately misleading or you missed the point and forgot that you
did!

I suspect the former.

You must "suspect" what you wish. The evidence supports only what I have
written above. If there were other (erroneous) interpretations, the fault
lies with those who failed to read what was written and preferred to
extrapolate where extrapolatuion was neither necessary nor desirable.

["Followup-To:" header set to uk.transport.london.]
In article ,
JNugent wrote:
Except that you then wrote:
A one hour journey by car can take one (easily) up to 60 miles
(probably not a lot more, unless one lives adjacent to a motorway
interchange).

Indeed. But the car journey to which I was referring was a journey *within
the area within a one hour commute from Central London*

If that's what you meant, then you have mislead more than one person.

Robin (and everyone else) took that to mean that you were limiting it
to commuting by car.

Their error, I fear, since I did not claim that - did I?

No, but the implication was there, or so I thought.

However, that's moot: I still think that you're 'one hour's commute' is
over-optimistic.

I used to commute from a small village just south of Guildford
(about 30 miles from London), and it'd take me more than an hour
to reach Waterloo, let alone a place of work in central London.

This was mostly because getting from home to Guildford station used
to take me 20 minutes or so; by the time you add a reasonable time
to get from Waterloo to the office, and it was nearer 120 minutes
door-to-door. While Finchley isn't exactly Central London I think
the point is clear enough even so.

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