Anyone have an update date - or should that be date update?

Couple of my friendly DLR-folk told me the other night "still sorting
out bits and pieces" - but they were too busy to pass on any details.

I think at one stage 7 March was mentioned, but there have been several
other dates - and ISTR we were previously hoping for January.

Does anyone know why the delays - or are we still ahead of the official
programme timings? I guess DLR have trained us, as it were, to expect
projects to be completed early.

Ken

We are well past the anticipated opening dates which were variously Jan
2011, Feb 2011 and possibly March 2011. Therefore dates like "late
Spring" or "early Summer" are now mentioned but you can debate what that
means.

Just so long as no-one mentions "late Summer"!

-roy

On Sat, 05 Mar 2011 15:37:36 +0000, Bearded wrote:

Anyone have an update date - or should that be date update?

Obviously, Paul Corfield puts more information in, but I think the simple
answer is that it's not far away, and when you're least expecting it,
there'll be announcement saying that it will be opening "tomorrow" or
some such.

In message , Roy Badami
writes
We are well past the anticipated opening dates which were variously Jan
2011, Feb 2011 and possibly March 2011. Therefore dates like "late
Spring" or "early Summer" are now mentioned but you can debate what that
means.
Just so long as no-one mentions "late Summer"!
I can remember the Jubilee (Fleet) line being finished in a hurry for
something or other at Stratford, so important that the moving block
signalling was abandoned. Anyone remember what it was? What's the
likelihood something will delay the DLR and compromises will be made?
--
Clive

In message , Clive
writes

I can remember the Jubilee (Fleet) line being finished in a hurry for
something or other at Stratford, so important that the moving block
signalling was abandoned. Anyone remember what it was?

The opening of the millenium dome in North Greenwich, rather than
anything at Stratford.

There were multiple delays on the Jubilee extension, including
escalating costs, lack of promised finance, and worries about the New
Austrian Tunnelling Method used.

But the full moving block signalling had to be abandoned because it was
an untried system developed by Westinghouse, and couldn't be made to
work.

--
Paul Terry

In message , Paul Corfield
writes
ITYM North Greenwich not Stratford.
I don't doubt you're right, but what was it that the Jubilee line was
finished in a hurry for?
--
Clive

In message , Paul Terry
writes
In message , Clive
writes
I can remember the Jubilee (Fleet) line being finished in a hurry for
something or other at Stratford, so important that the moving block
signalling was abandoned. Anyone remember what it was?
The opening of the millenium dome in North Greenwich, rather than
anything at Stratford.
Thank you, I couldn't remember what it was.
There were multiple delays on the Jubilee extension, including
escalating costs, lack of promised finance, and worries about the New
Austrian Tunnelling Method used.
Is that the same method, where the tunnel collapsed under Heathrow?
But the full moving block signalling had to be abandoned because it was
an untried system developed by Westinghouse, and couldn't be made to
work.
Isn't it moving block on the DLR? Have they got anywhere near getting
it working on the Jubilee yet?
Did I hear that the Jubilee was to be automatic like the Victoria and
Central lines are?
--
Clive

In message , Martin Petrov
writes
On Sat, 05 Mar 2011 15:37:36 +0000, Bearded wrote:
Anyone have an update date - or should that be date update?
Obviously, Paul Corfield puts more information in, but I think the simple
answer is that it's not far away, and when you're least expecting it,
there'll be announcement saying that it will be opening "tomorrow" or
some such.
Didn't it run to Lewisham in passenger service before the "official"
start date?
--
Clive

"Clive" wrote in message
...

Isn't it moving block on the DLR? Have they got anywhere near getting it
working on the Jubilee yet?

Yes, and Yes - the Jubilee has been using moving block since Christmas,
(it's known as the 'transmission based train control system' (TBTC)) ,
except for the section between Dollis Hill and Stanmore.

The conventional signalling is no longer used, which is why it is all
covered up.

Paul S

On 05/03/2011 15:56, Paul Corfield wrote:

I have read nothing - even on the rumour mill boards - that gives
anything firmer than "no one really knows". Lots of people are clearly
keen to see it open but we all just have to wait until whatever the
issues are get resolved and DLR can train its staff, test all the
systems and get through the necessary regulatory processes before
passengers can be carried.

Maybe they learned from the Woolwich opening, but it is taking longer
than expected to train staff with anger-management and clue-possession
issues in the difference between "ticket-buying passengers photographing
a new railway" and "evil terrorists planning to take over the world"?

Perhaps I might take a copy of the DLR's letter of apology with me when
I go see the new bit, just in case!


--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK