On Mar 7, 10:48*pm, wrote:
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(Martin Petrov) wrote:
*From:* Martin Petrov
*Date:* Mon, 7 Mar 2011 22:11:00 +0000 (UTC)

I've only just joined the newsgroup after a long absence, so I
don't
know what's been posted.

Franklin Jarrier has recently updated the London map with some
minor
changes and additions - now v1.1

http://carto.metro.free.fr/metro-london/

That is an outstanding map - though as a minor point of order,
Shoreditch station is listed as closing 22/12/2007 - I'm pretty
sure it closed in June/July 2006, while the rest of the ELL closed
on the date you've suggested? (anyone confirm?)

Thanks for that, Wiki has the same date - I'll let Franklin know.

Roger- Hide quoted text -

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Harrow North Junction is shown back to front (ie the northbound
connection is shown north of the southbound connection instead of
alongside it, IYSWIM)

StuartJ

On 2011-03-07 22:11:00 +0000, Martin Petrov said:


I've only just joined the newsgroup after a long absence, so I don't
know what's been posted.

Franklin Jarrier has recently updated the London map with some minor
changes and additions - now v1.1

http://carto.metro.free.fr/metro-london/

That is an outstanding map - though as a minor point of order, Shoreditch
station is listed as closing 22/12/2007 - I'm pretty sure it closed in
June/July 2006, while the rest of the ELL closed on the date you've
suggested? (anyone confirm?)

I'm going to bookmark this map - it's excellent.

Another quibble: the closure date for Blake Hall is given as about 20
years too early.

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() wrote:

Canonbury's now sorted,

Not that I can see. it still shows as from Southbound GNC to Eastbound NLL.

I've checked W&C and the lift siding still appears to be there
(probably as an engineers siding) - it's shown as no.8 siding on
the map.

That doesn't make sense to me. No 8 siding is shown within the depot area
on the map I'm looking at. The siding to the lift went off straight ahead
on the approach to the station from Bank about where the curve to the
right into the Waterloo platforms starts.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

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() wrote:

*From:*
*Date:* Tue, 08 Mar 2011 05:36:35 -0600

In article ,
() wrote:

Canonbury's now sorted,

Not that I can see. it still shows as from Southbound GNC to
Eastbound NLL.

I've checked W&C and the lift siding still appears to be there
(probably as an engineers siding) - it's shown as no.8 siding on
the map.

That doesn't make sense to me. No 8 siding is shown within the
depot area on the map I'm looking at. The siding to the lift went
off straight ahead on the approach to the station from Bank about
where the curve to the right into the Waterloo platforms starts.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Sorry, I meant to say that Franklin has now updated Canonbury and this
will be shown correctly when the next version of the map is uploaded.

Reading Wiki, I see what you mean about the position of the lift siding. I
don't know anything about the arrangements at Waterloo depot. What I was
referring to was shown as "lift siding" on one diagram and "8 siding" on
another diagram, so I just assumed that 8 siding was the siding you were
referring to. I'll have to try and Google around to see if I can find a
diagram showing the lift siding connection so that I can pass it on to
Franklin.

Roger

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,
(StuartJ) wrote:

*From:* StuartJ
*Date:* Tue, 8 Mar 2011 02:46:06 -0800 (PST)

On Mar 7, 10:48*pm, wrote:
In article ,





(Martin Petrov) wrote:
*From:* Martin Petrov
*Date:* Mon, 7 Mar 2011 22:11:00 +0000 (UTC)

I've only just joined the newsgroup after a long absence, so I
don't
know what's been posted.

Franklin Jarrier has recently updated the London map with some
minor
changes and additions - now v1.1

http://carto.metro.free.fr/metro-london/

That is an outstanding map - though as a minor point of order,
Shoreditch station is listed as closing 22/12/2007 - I'm pretty
sure it closed in June/July 2006, while the rest of the ELL
closed
on the date you've suggested? (anyone confirm?)

Thanks for that, Wiki has the same date - I'll let Franklin know.

Roger- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Harrow North Junction is shown back to front (ie the northbound
connection is shown north of the southbound connection instead of
alongside it, IYSWIM)

StuartJ

Thanks
I've passed that on

Roger

Roger

*From:* Ken Wheatley
*Date:* Tue, 8 Mar 2011 11:15:32 +0000

On 2011-03-07 22:11:00 +0000, Martin Petrov said:


I've only just joined the newsgroup after a long absence, so I
don't
know what's been posted.

Franklin Jarrier has recently updated the London map with some
minor
changes and additions - now v1.1

http://carto.metro.free.fr/metro-london/

That is an outstanding map - though as a minor point of order,
Shoreditch
station is listed as closing 22/12/2007 - I'm pretty sure it
closed in
June/July 2006, while the rest of the ELL closed on the date
you've
suggested? (anyone confirm?)

I'm going to bookmark this map - it's excellent.

Another quibble: the closure date for Blake Hall is given as about
20 years too early.


Thanks - passed on for correction

Roger

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() wrote:

*From:*
*Date:* Tue, 08 Mar 2011 05:59:34 -0600

In article ,
() wrote:

*From:*
*Date:* Tue, 08 Mar 2011 05:36:35 -0600

In article ,
() wrote:

Canonbury's now sorted,

Not that I can see. it still shows as from Southbound GNC to
Eastbound NLL.

I've checked W&C and the lift siding still appears to be there
(probably as an engineers siding) - it's shown as no.8 siding
on the map. That doesn't make sense to me. No 8 siding is
shown within the depot area on the map I'm looking at. The
siding to the lift went off straight ahead on the approach to the
station from Bank about where the curve to the right into the
Waterloo platforms starts.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Sorry, I meant to say that Franklin has now updated Canonbury and
this will be shown correctly when the next version of the map is
uploaded.

Reading Wiki, I see what you mean about the position of the lift
siding. I don't know anything about the arrangements at Waterloo
depot. What I was referring to was shown as "lift siding" on one
diagram and "8 siding" on another diagram, so I just assumed that 8
siding was the siding you were referring to. I'll have to try and
Google around to see if I can find a diagram showing the lift
siding connection so that I can pass it on to Franklin.

Roger

Looking at the 1914 Ordnance Survey map, I think I can see where the lift
was at ground level. Was the lift siding off the NB W&C line?

Roger

In article ,
() wrote:

*From:*
*Date:* Tue, 08 Mar 2011 05:59:34 -0600

In article ,
() wrote:

*From:*
*Date:* Tue, 08 Mar 2011 05:36:35 -0600

In article ,
() wrote:

Canonbury's now sorted,

Not that I can see. it still shows as from Southbound GNC to
Eastbound NLL.

I've checked W&C and the lift siding still appears to be there
(probably as an engineers siding) - it's shown as no.8 siding
on the map. That doesn't make sense to me. No 8 siding is
shown within the depot area on the map I'm looking at. The
siding to the lift went off straight ahead on the approach to the
station from Bank about where the curve to the right into the
Waterloo platforms starts.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Sorry, I meant to say that Franklin has now updated Canonbury and
this will be shown correctly when the next version of the map is
uploaded.

Reading Wiki, I see what you mean about the position of the lift
siding. I don't know anything about the arrangements at Waterloo
depot. What I was referring to was shown as "lift siding" on one
diagram and "8 siding" on another diagram, so I just assumed that 8
siding was the siding you were referring to. I'll have to try and
Google around to see if I can find a diagram showing the lift
siding connection so that I can pass it on to Franklin.

Roger

I've now found out why 8 road is now also called the lift road. Since the
closure of the Armstrong lift, the cars are lifted by crane directly from
8 road. The track of 8 road can be seen in Google Earth in the 'V'
junction between Spur Road and Station Approach Road. Something else new
that I've learnt :-)

Roger

wrote:
[W&C line]

I've now found out why 8 road is now also called the lift road. Since the
closure of the Armstrong lift, the cars are lifted by crane directly from
8 road. The track of 8 road can be seen in Google Earth in the 'V'
junction between Spur Road and Station Approach Road. Something else new
that I've learnt :-)

Here's the W&C carriages being lifted out of the hole in April '06 for
refurbishment...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/zimpenfish/121213923/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/zimpenfish/121214056/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/zimpenfish/121214019/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/justindperkins/4349919722/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/justindperkins/4349948484/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/zimpenfish/121213974/

And here's one after the refurb, about to be craned back down the Drain in
August '06:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jimd/224388470/

Alas none really show the 'hole' - aha, here's a shot that illustrates that:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/version-3-point-1/207601090/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/version-3-point-1/207598827/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/version-3-point-1/207598449/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/version-3-point-1/207597974/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/version-3-point-1/207597588/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/version-3-point-1/207597190/

I realise now I've arranged these in the wrong order - these were the
refurbed carriages being returned to their subterranean home - my excuse is
that they don't show in chronological order he
http://www.flickr.com/photos/version...erloocityline/

You can see the 'hole' from street level of course.

In article ,
(Mizter T) wrote:

*From:* "Mizter T"
*Date:* Tue, 8 Mar 2011 14:23:12 -0000

wrote:
[W&C line]

I've now found out why 8 road is now also called the lift road.
Since the
closure of the Armstrong lift, the cars are lifted by crane
directly from
8 road. The track of 8 road can be seen in Google Earth in the 'V'
junction between Spur Road and Station Approach Road. Something
else new
that I've learnt :-)

Here's the W&C carriages being lifted out of the hole in April '06
for refurbishment...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/zimpenfish/121213923/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/zimpenfish/121214056/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/zimpenfish/121214019/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/justindperkins/4349919722/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/justindperkins/4349948484/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/zimpenfish/121213974/

And here's one after the refurb, about to be craned back down the
Drain in August '06:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jimd/224388470/

Alas none really show the 'hole' - aha, here's a shot that
illustrates that:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/version-3-point-1/207601090/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/version-3-point-1/207598827/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/version-3-point-1/207598449/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/version-3-point-1/207597974/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/version-3-point-1/207597588/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/version-3-point-1/207597190/

I realise now I've arranged these in the wrong order - these were
the refurbed carriages being returned to their subterranean home -
my excuse is that they don't show in chronological order he
http://www.flickr.com/photos/version...terloocityline
/

You can see the 'hole' from street level of course.


I've just checked out the photos, they're good. Are the cars being lifted
very high, or is it an optical illusion?

Checking Google Earth again, the position of the rectangular hole can be
clearly seen, with what appears to be blue netting over it. Looking at it
from road level in Streetview, the site of the hole is very clearly seen
with the blue metal grids (what looked like netting on GE) and a fixed
crane on the left. I assume that the crane is used for lifting materials
(not cars) to / from the depot.

Roger