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This is very sad - but why so many at Southall anyway? It does seem to
be a regular occurance.

Today's "one under" was at Surbiton. I'm sure part of the reason is to
seek out a fast line to ensure instant despatch, but it's so unfair on
drivers.

Massive disruption across the SWT network this afternoon as a result,
including cancellations, diversions and late running of up to an hour.
SWT Dorking service cancelled, and Exeter/Salisbury services terminating
at Basingstoke. Even the Windsor line and Hounslow loop line were
affected. Some services not expected to return to normal until tomorrow.
--
Paul Terry

"Paul Terry" wrote in message
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In message
, SB
writes

This is very sad - but why so many at Southall anyway? It does seem to
be a regular occurance.

Today's "one under" was at Surbiton. I'm sure part of the reason is to
seek out a fast line to ensure instant despatch, but it's so unfair on
drivers.

Massive disruption across the SWT network this afternoon as a result,
including cancellations, diversions and late running of up to an hour. SWT
Dorking service cancelled, and Exeter/Salisbury services terminating at
Basingstoke. Even the Windsor line and Hounslow loop line were affected.
Some services not expected to return to normal until tomorrow.
--
Paul Terry

2 yesterday.

"Paul Terry" wrote

Massive disruption across the SWT network this afternoon as a result,
including cancellations, diversions and late running of up to an hour. SWT
Dorking service cancelled, and Exeter/Salisbury services terminating at
Basingstoke. Even the Windsor line and Hounslow loop line were affected.

Presumably some Main Line trains diverted via Chertsey and Staines, getting
in the way of Windsor and Hounslow Loop.

Peter

"Peter Masson" wrote in message
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"SB" wrote in message
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Sadly there was yet another person hit by a train at Southall on
Monday evening (yesterday).

http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/co...c=669.msg87663

This is very sad - but why so many at Southall anyway? It does seem
to
be a regular occurance.

Anyway you would have thought that First Great Western might have
had
a contingency plan for such occurrences by now.

I suspect they had. BTP's target time for reopening a railway after
a fatality is 2 hours. If you could get a fleet of buses to
Paddington to take all the passengers it would almost certainly take
the best part of 2 hours.

An illustration.....

A few yearsgo I had a call (at home ) from my boss (I was working as a
coach driver).
"Come to the yard, collect a coach, go to Gatwick - they have fog
problems".

(I was living in Portsmouth, I had to drive to Gosport, pick up (and
check over) a vehicle, and drive it to Gatwick.

At Gatwick, three of us coach drivers had instructions to take a load
to Stansted. Being haemophrenic types, we decided one would do M25
anticlockwise, one M25 clockwise, and one (me ) through the middle of
London. (to see which was quickest - traffic was light, it was now the
small hours).

Going through the Victoria area aiming towards Park Lane, there was
nearly a riot from the passengers.... "There's the bloody hotel we
left 24 hours ago!!!!!"

)

On 06/04/2011 20:44, Ian wrote:
At Gatwick, three of us coach drivers had instructions to take a load
to Stansted. Being haemophrenic types, we decided one would do M25
anticlockwise, one M25 clockwise, and one (me ) through the middle of
London. (to see which was quickest - traffic was light, it was now the
small hours).

Going through the Victoria area aiming towards Park Lane, there was
nearly a riot from the passengers.... "There's the bloody hotel we
left 24 hours ago!!!!!"

OK, who was quickest?


--
Graeme Wall
This account not read, substitute trains for rail.
Railway Miscellany at www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail

On Wed, 6 Apr 2011 15:40:35 +0000 (UTC), d
wrote:

On Wed, 06 Apr 2011 16:32:06 +0100
Graeme Wall wrote:
Utter drivel. How hard is it to buy an english book, watch TV, listen
to the radio?

Very hard if your spouse has you under effective house arrest.

And unless they had 2 minutes notice they would have known
they were going to britain and could have learnt some before they left
home.
So stop making excuses for these people.


You really haven't a clue, have you?

I have plenty thanks. Unfortunately you and Ellison

Who he ?

and just a couple of
hand wringing liberal apologists


As I said, you haven't got a clue.

Ah, standard issue get-me-out-of-this-hole-i've-dug response #1 - if you have
no answer just keep repeating yourself and hope the other person gives up.

ITYF you got your repetition in first.

Sad.

You said it.

On Wed, 6 Apr 2011 08:52:42 +0000 (UTC), d
wrote:

On Tue, 05 Apr 2011 20:52:45 +0100
Charles Ellson wrote:
main rail line for hours but in this country it just needs one jobsworth
plod and thats it for the day. In spain last year I drove past 2 trucks that
had collided head on. In this country plod would have closed the entire
stretch of road for a day - in spain the police were just waving drivers
past as they got on with their job.

Maybe the police knew enough of the facts (unlike yourself) to know
that no evidence external to the vehicles had to be gathered ?

What , you think a truck head on over here would have the police leave
a single carraigeway road open with traffic on it? Dream on. It would be
closed for a day minimum.

Only one of the several accidents I have assisted at have involved a
road closure and it was not the one involving two fatalities; there is
no practical reason to stop traffic which is not interfering with the
proceedings and which can be safely guided past.

On Wed, 6 Apr 2011 08:57:04 +0000 (UTC), d
wrote:

On Tue, 5 Apr 2011 21:12:39 +0100
"Nick P" wrote:
By the way you tell it you'd be happy to ignore any chance of preventing
this happening again and let any possible guilty parties get away free. In
that case, why bother having police at all?

It doesn't take 15 hours to photograph the road, measure distances and
clear it.

Not if you don't care about preserving evidence or waiting for
appropriate equipment to arrive but I doubt if 15 hours is routine.

Witness statements can be taken after the road is cleared.

Initial witness statements are best taken at the time otherwise you
find out the next day that one of the witnesses is actually a suspect.

I do agree that 15 hours is rather long for a RTA investigation but I'm not
sure that many people were delayed for the airport. The crash happened

Well the airport isn't the only important destination for the M11. Its
the main route from london to cambridge amongst other things.

On Wed, 06 Apr 2011 16:50:59 +0100
Graeme Wall wrote:
As I said, you haven't got a clue.

Ah, standard issue get-me-out-of-this-hole-i've-dug response #1 - if you have
no answer just keep repeating yourself and hope the other person gives up.

Sad.


ROTFL

Thats standard response #2. Are you going to work your way through the
entire list, do you have any sort of cogent argument you could put forward
or will your next reply be "troll" or "*plonk*" which are #3 and #4
respectively?

B2003

"Graeme Wall" wrote in message
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On 06/04/2011 20:44, Ian wrote:
At Gatwick, three of us coach drivers had instructions to take a
load
to Stansted. Being haemophrenic types, we decided one would do M25
anticlockwise, one M25 clockwise, and one (me ) through the middle
of
London. (to see which was quickest - traffic was light, it was now
the
small hours).

Going through the Victoria area aiming towards Park Lane, there was
nearly a riot from the passengers.... "There's the bloody hotel we
left 24 hours ago!!!!!"

OK, who was quickest?

AISTR, there wasn't very much in it between centre of London and
clockwise route.

Anticlockwise was rather longer.

But he did decide to stop for half an hour at Clackett Lane.