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Double red lines? What are they?


They signify "No Stopping" on London's designated "Red Routes".
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/roadusers/fine...ons/10185.aspx


Oh and whats wrong with the standard double yellow lines - they mean no
stopping too!



The difference is that yellow lines allow brief stopping to pick up or
set down passengers whereas, on Red Routes, stopping is prohibited.

A single red line means no stopping during the prescribed hours stated
on roadside signs. Double red lines means no stopping at any time.

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Double red lines? What are they?


They signify "No Stopping" on London's designated "Red Routes".

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/roadusers/fine...ons/10185.aspx


Oh and whats wrong with the standard double yellow lines - they mean no
stopping too!


FFS... No, they don't.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/prod_consum...ssets/@dg/@en/
documents/digitalasset/dg_070563.pdf
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"GT" gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

Double red lines? What are they?


They signify "No Stopping" on London's designated "Red Routes".

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/roadusers/fine...ons/10185.aspx


Oh and whats wrong with the standard double yellow lines - they mean no
stopping too!


FFS... No, they don't.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/prod_consum...ssets/@dg/@en/
documents/digitalasset/dg_070563.pdf


Lets hope there aren't any traffic jams or traffic lights along those routes
then - only taxis and blue badge holders would avoid prosecution!


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On Tue, 03 May 2011 15:19:45 +0100, Bruce wrote:
They signify "No Stopping" on London's designated "Red Routes".

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/roadusers/fine...ons/10185.aspx


They're not just in London. There's some roads in central Birmingham with
double red lines. I've seen them in other places as well.

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On 03/05/2011 15:19, Bruce wrote:
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I'm guessing there isn't one. Or they're exempt. Otherwise how can a black
cab stop halfway across a signalled junction in the middle of the road, on
a
corner, on double red lines in central london, blocking the traffic behind
to
pick up a passenger and some plods in a van nearby do absolutely bugger
all?

B2003


Double red lines? What are they?



They signify "No Stopping" on London's designated "Red Routes".

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/roadusers/fine...ons/10185.aspx


But not for taxis.

As should be obvious.



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LOn Tue, 03 May 2011 19:43:07 +0100, JNugent
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But not for taxis.


Are they legally allowed to stop on a Red Route causing an
obstruction? If so they IMO should not be.

Neil

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On 03/05/2011 19:45, Neil Williams wrote:

JNugent wrote:


But not for taxis.


Are they legally allowed to stop on a Red Route causing an obstruction? If so
they IMO should not be.


What do you mean?
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On Tue, 3 May 2011 15:10:36 +0100
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I'm guessing there isn't one. Or they're exempt. Otherwise how can a black
cab stop halfway across a signalled junction in the middle of the road, on
a
corner, on double red lines in central london, blocking the traffic behind
to
pick up a passenger and some plods in a van nearby do absolutely bugger
all?

B2003


Double red lines? What are they?


They mean don't stop no matter what in London or else. Though the "or else"
bit these days seems to mean "unless you really have to" rather than we'll
give you 3 points and tow your car like it should do.

B2003

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I'm guessing there isn't one. Or they're exempt. Otherwise how can a black
cab stop halfway across a signalled junction in the middle of the road, on
a
corner, on double red lines in central london, blocking the traffic behind
to
pick up a passenger and some plods in a van nearby do absolutely bugger
all?


There are exemptions in the Highway Code permitting black cabs and minicabs
stopping wherever they bloody like and for using their horns at 10 o'clock
at night in residential areas.

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On 2011\05\03 15:13, Mr. Benn wrote:
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I'm guessing there isn't one. Or they're exempt. Otherwise how can a
black
cab stop halfway across a signalled junction in the middle of the
road, on a
corner, on double red lines in central london, blocking the traffic
behind to
pick up a passenger and some plods in a van nearby do absolutely
bugger all?


There are exemptions in the Highway Code permitting black cabs and
minicabs stopping wherever they bloody like


No, there aren't - any taxi picking up on zigzags is likely to be busted
- but taxis and minicabs are explicitly allowed to stop on red routes.
The whole point of red routes was that normal clearways would prevent
taxis from being hailed on precisely the routes that they use to get
back into Central London, so the red route was dreamt up specifically to
compromise between the desire to have functional roads and the desire to
have a functional taxi service.

and for using their horns at
10 o'clock at night in residential areas.


I've never heard a taxi do that, but minicabs do that habitually despite
having no exemption.


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