On 09/05/2011 10:44, Adrian wrote:
(Steve Firth) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying:

Just one more reason why Volvos are ****e. That and the fact that they
are downmarket Fords.

Apart from the fact that Ford don't own Volvo, where in the market would
that place Ford themselves?


Digressing slightly. I had a Volvo estate for years. Great workhorse,
very thirsty though.

In message , at 10:47:09 on Mon, 9 May
2011, Bod remarked:

I had a Volvo estate for years. Great workhorse, very thirsty though.

Mine averages a little over 35mpg, which is not bad considering its
mainly urban use.
--
Roland Perry

Bod wrote:
On 09/05/2011 10:44, Adrian wrote:
(Steve Firth) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying:

Just one more reason why Volvos are ****e. That and the fact that they
are downmarket Fords.

Apart from the fact that Ford don't own Volvo, where in the market would
that place Ford themselves?


Digressing slightly. I had a Volvo estate for years. Great workhorse,
very thirsty though.


It is true that most of the present Volvo range are built on Ford or
Ford-derived platforms.

I'm not sure I would agree with Steve Firth's definition but Volvo
definitely lost something in terms of quality and image during Ford's
ownership.

It could be worse, though: look at what GM's ownership did to Saab!

Bruce wrote:

It could be worse, though: look at what GM's ownership did to Saab!

Fortunately they never sold the model that represented the lowest point
of GM's ownership of SAAB in the UK. That was the Subaru Impreza with
the SAAB bonnet. A realistic attempt at making the ugliest car in the
world event worse.

(Steve Firth) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying:

It could be worse, though: look at what GM's ownership did to Saab!

Fortunately they never sold the model that represented the lowest point
of GM's ownership of SAAB in the UK. That was the Subaru Impreza with
the SAAB bonnet. A realistic attempt at making the ugliest car in the
world event worse.

The "Saabaru" 9-2x was bad, but the "Trollblazer" 9-7x was even worse - a
Chevrolet Trailblazer with a Saab badge.

Adrian wrote:

but the "Trollblazer" 9-7x was even worse - a
Chevrolet Trailblazer with a Saab badge.

I defer to sir's clearly superior knowledge of how low GM were willing
to take SAAB.

Googles

Barf.

(Steve Firth) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying:

but the "Trollblazer" 9-7x was even worse - a Chevrolet Trailblazer
with a Saab badge.

I defer to sir's clearly superior knowledge of how low GM were willing
to take SAAB.

Googles

Barf.

GM were merely building on a tradition Saab had already established on
their tod.

Even the 9000/164/Croma/Thema wasn't the first such crime. Saab 600. Yes,
Six hundred.