On 30/05/2011 12:22, TheOneKEA wrote:
On May 30, 4:28 am, Graeme wrote:
On 30/05/2011 03:21, TheOneKEA wrote:

Now that the Class 378s have fully displaced the 313s and 508s on the
Overground, been mostly lengthened to 4 cars and have been running for
nearly two years, have they produced the expected increases in
patronage, ridership numbers and revenue? I am especially interested
to know if the horrific ridership conditions on the core NLL section
between Willesden and Stratford have been eliminated or mitigated by
all of the new standing room space on the 378s, given the initial
complaints about the lack of seats. I'm also interested to know how
greatly the Southern and Southeastern services in and out of London
Bridge have been affected by the ELL services from Croydon, Crystal
Palace and New Cross, and if the WLL continues to increase in usage
thanks to the new Westfield development. Have the 378s been a total
success, or just successful?

Define total success?

A minimum 50% increase in ridership in the off-peak hours and a 75%
increase in the peaks.


Genuine question, why those particular figures to define total success?


You are talking about a dynamic situation so what is successful today
may not be quite so tomorrow, and vice versa.

As to your first question why don't you do some original research and
make a few trips along the relevant sections of line at the approprotae
times of day and report back your findings.


I did so in 2010 during the off-peaks, and my findings at the time
were that the NLL had substantially more through traffic, much larger
usage on the core section east of Willesden and west of Stratford and
had several stations (such as the stations in Hackney) that were very
crowded. Compared to my trips on the line in 2006 it was a massive
improvement.

I'm asking again because I haven't ridden the line since and I wanted
to know what more regular users thought.

Sounds like you are the ideal person to check again, anyone using it
every day over the last year is probably not going to notice the changes
that you would as they would have experienced an incremental change over
a long (ish) period.

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Graeme Wall
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