Just wondering, as a relatively new user of a Freedom Pass, if it actually
contains any information or if it is just a 'gate-opener'.

Ian

On Jun 12, 12:04*am, "Ian F." wrote:
Just wondering, as a relatively new user of a Freedom Pass, if it actually
contains any information or if it is just a 'gate-opener'.

Ian

It contains the same information as any Oyster card. So if necessary
your last (I believe) 63 days of travel can be produced as a printed
document, called an OCTA printout.

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On Jun 12, 12:04 am, "Ian F." wrote:
Just wondering, as a relatively new user of a Freedom Pass, if it
actually
contains any information or if it is just a 'gate-opener'.

Ian

It contains the same information as any Oyster card. So if necessary
your last (I believe) 63 days of travel can be produced as a printed
document, called an OCTA printout.

Does it also include an ITSO spec national bus pass nowadays - so that it
can be used on buses elsewhere in England?

Paul S

Paul Scott wrote on 12 June 2011
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On Jun 12, 12:04 am, "Ian wrote:
Just wondering, as a relatively new user of a Freedom Pass, if it
actually
contains any information or if it is just a 'gate-opener'.

Ian

It contains the same information as any Oyster card. So if necessary
your last (I believe) 63 days of travel can be produced as a printed
document, called an OCTA printout.

Does it also include an ITSO spec national bus pass nowadays - so that it
can be used on buses elsewhere in England?

I haven't tested mine, but that was what we were told when the current
passes were issued.
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Richard J.
(to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address)

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Paul Scott wrote on 12 June 2011
11:28:37 ...
wrote in message
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On Jun 12, 12:04 am, "Ian wrote:
Just wondering, as a relatively new user of a Freedom Pass, if it
actually
contains any information or if it is just a 'gate-opener'.

Ian

It contains the same information as any Oyster card. So if necessary
your last (I believe) 63 days of travel can be produced as a printed
document, called an OCTA printout.

Does it also include an ITSO spec national bus pass nowadays - so that it
can be used on buses elsewhere in England?

I haven't tested mine, but that was what we were told when the current
passes were issued.

Mine has worked in Cambridge but didn't on a Birmingham bus.

On Jun 12, 11:28*am, "Paul Scott"
wrote:

Does it also include an ITSO spec national bus pass nowadays - so that it
can be used on buses elsewhere in England?

Yes - the (London) Freedom Pass design now matches the standard ENCTS
pass design as used everywhere else in England, and so includes the
ITSO logo on the front - example:
http://www.londoncouncils.gov.uk/ser...to/anatomy.htm

"Ian F." wrote in message
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Just wondering, as a relatively new user of a Freedom Pass, if it actually
contains any information or if it is just a 'gate-opener'.

Ian

Many thanks to all for the info.

Ian

On Jun 12, 11:48*pm, "Ian F." wrote:
"Ian F." wrote in message

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Just wondering, as a relatively new user of a Freedom Pass, if it actually
contains any information or if it is just a 'gate-opener'.

Ian

Many thanks to all for the info.

Ian

I, too, am a relatively recent recipient of the Freedom Pass. I have
found that in practice it seems to function purely as a gate opener.
For example, if I don't touch in at New Barnet (quite easy as it has
no gates) it will still let me out at Kings Cross. Similarly, if I
don't touch out it doesn't subsequently query my journey.

As for buses, on Route 84, which goes a long way out of London to St
Albans, the Oyster reader stops working at the travelcard boundary,
and for the return journey I have to show the pass to the driver.
Further out, on some buses the driver always asks my destination and
issues me with a zero charge ticket, while on others it's enough to
wave the pass at the driver. Is this because some local authorities
pay by journey, while others have a bulk settlement?

Peter

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peter writes

I, too, am a relatively recent recipient of the Freedom Pass. I have
found that in practice it seems to function purely as a gate opener.
For example, if I don't touch in at New Barnet (quite easy as it has
no gates) it will still let me out at Kings Cross.

If you don't touch in, an RPI might ask you to prove that you didn't
join the train before the start of Zone 6 (i.e. at a station at which
your Freedom Pass is not valid). Generally, RPIs just visually inspect
Freedom Passes, but I have seen them checked on hand-held readers
occasionally.
--
Paul Terry

peter wrote

Further out, on some buses the driver always asks my destination and
issues me with a zero charge ticket, while on others it's enough to
wave the pass at the driver. Is this because some local authorities
pay by journey, while others have a bulk settlement?

They all pay by journey but it's a matter for the bus company and the
local authority how that's done and this may depend on the type of
ticket machine in use. A small number have suitable electronic readers
for ITSO cards.

Thus a TfL driver will press a appropriate button when a (non-Freedom)
bus pass is waved, in the same way as when a paper ODTC is shown.

In Surrey I have observed both press buttons (Abellio) and zero charge
tickets (Countryliner). I found GUIDELINES FOR OPERATORS pdf on Surrey
CC's web site which may be of interest.

http://www.surreycc.gov.uk/sccwebsit...f/591f7dda55aa
d72a80256c670041a50d/55ade2860da4f0758025783200491a28/$FILE/Ops%20Guidel
ines%20-%20%20April%202011-March%202012.pdf

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Mike D