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This is clearly marked on numerous maps as opening in Autumn 2010. Its
Spring 2011 - what's the delay? CJB.
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This is clearly marked on numerous maps as opening in Autumn 2010. Its
Spring 2011 - what's the delay? CJB.


The online map says summer 2011 so no idea.

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...-route-map.pdf

Hopefully it will be soon as I think Star Lane may come in handy for work.


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This is clearly marked on numerous maps as opening in Autumn 2010. Its
Spring 2011 - what's the delay? CJB.


The online map says summer 2011 so no idea.

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...-route-map.pdf

Hopefully it will be soon as I think Star Lane may come in handy for work..


Interesting map - thank you. It seems that to get to/from the City of
London (Bank or Tower Hill) and Stratford International (and
presumably the Olympic Site) everyone will have to change at Canning
Town. This is going to cause chaos at peak flows with tourists and
commuters milling around changing trains and presumably changing
platforms.

Why on earth didn't they put a chord in for trains to go direct from
say Bank to Stratord International etc.?

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On Jun 14, 6:18*pm, "Q" ..@.. wrote:

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This is clearly marked on numerous maps as opening in Autumn 2010. Its
Spring 2011 - what's the delay? CJB.


The online map says summer 2011 so no idea.


http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...-route-map.pdf


Hopefully it will be soon as I think Star Lane may come in handy for work.


Interesting map - thank you. It seems that to get to/from the City of
London (Bank or Tower Hill) and Stratford International (and
presumably the Olympic Site) everyone will have to change at Canning
Town. This is going to cause chaos at peak flows with tourists and
commuters milling around changing trains and presumably changing
platforms.

Why on earth didn't they put a chord in for trains to go direct from
say Bank to Stratord International etc.?


How many people have any reason to want to actually travel between
Stratford International and Bank? Almost every journey I can think of
between somewhere in central London and somewhere in Stratford is
better served via HS1 between St Pancras and Stratford International,
as the train is so much faster than the DLR (even if the latter did
have direct trains). If you are thinking of the Olympics, why would
people want to go via Bank at all (would you really expect to go from
the office to the games rather than from home to the games)? How many
people can get from their home to Bank more easily than they can get
from their homes to St Pancras (or direct to Stratford)? In the
longer term, it seems to me the main use for this line is to connect
passengers using HS1 with the wider Docklands region. If there were a
north to west curve at Canning Town, I would suggest that it would be
far more useful to use it for Lewisham - Isle of Dogs - Canning Town -
Stratford Intl services than Bank - Canning Town - Stratford Intl.

To my mind, the most useful feature of this new line will be to allow
me to get from north of London to City Airport (eg Cambridge - King's
Cross - St Pancras - Stratford Intl - Canning Town - LCY). Having
done Cambridge to LCY a few times recently, I'm definitely looking
forward to this option (oddly I've had trouble buying a ticket from
Cambridge to Stratford International from Cambridge station, and
tickets from Cambridge to Stratford, routed any permitted, won't open
the gates at St Pancras (Kent), although the staff are happy enough to
let me through).

Robin
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bob wrote:


To my mind, the most useful feature of this new line will be to allow
me to get from north of London to City Airport (eg Cambridge - King's
Cross - St Pancras - Stratford Intl - Canning Town - LCY).


Another option is Finsbury Park ‹ Highbury ‹ Shadwell ‹ LCY.

E.


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*bob wrote:
To my mind, the most useful feature of this new line will be to allow
me to get from north of London to City Airport (eg Cambridge - King's
Cross - St Pancras - Stratford Intl - Canning Town - LCY).


Another option is Finsbury Park Highbury Shadwell LCY.


In the general case of approaching from the north, that's certainly an
option, in the particular case of Cambridge, the service to Finsbury
Park isn't great (there are twice hourly non-stop trains to the Cross
that don't call at FP, one semi that calls at FP in a useful time, and
one stopper that's no good to man nor beast). There is also the very
occasional Cambridge to Stratford train on the Liverpool Street route,
but I've never figured whether it's actually useful for this
particular journey. The last couple of times I made the journey it
wasn't running for various reasons.

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bob wrote:

(oddly I've had trouble buying a ticket from
Cambridge to Stratford International from Cambridge station, and
tickets from Cambridge to Stratford, routed any permitted, won't open
the gates at St Pancras (Kent), although the staff are happy enough to
let me through).


IIUC Stratford International for domestic services is a pick-up to
Kent/set-down to London only station. Certainly the buses to & from
Stratford regional are timed only to connect that way and I'd presume the
gates are working on the same principle (although the staff may either be
more relaxed about this or simply not know).


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"Tim Roll-Pickering" wrote

IIUC Stratford International for domestic services is a pick-up to
Kent/set-down to London only station.


Not the case. It is a normal stop, which will be much more useful when the
DLR gets there.

Peter

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On Jun 14, 6:18 pm, "Q" ..@.. wrote:
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This is clearly marked on numerous maps as opening in Autumn 2010.
Its Spring 2011 - what's the delay? CJB.


The online map says summer 2011 so no idea.

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...-route-map.pdf

Hopefully it will be soon as I think Star Lane may come in handy for
work.


Interesting map - thank you. It seems that to get to/from the City of
London (Bank or Tower Hill) and Stratford International (and
presumably the Olympic Site) everyone will have to change at Canning
Town. This is going to cause chaos at peak flows with tourists and
commuters milling around changing trains and presumably changing
platforms.

Why on earth didn't they put a chord in for trains to go direct from
say Bank to Stratord International etc.?


The Olympic site is best accessed from Stratford Regional, which already
has connections from the City (on the Central and mainline), the West
End (via the Jubilee) and from Canary Wharf (via the existing DLR). If
someone wants to get there from Tower Hill directly, then the District
to West Ham is best. In one of these cases is a change needed. Stratford
International is best placed for connecting to the Athletes' Village,
which is a large residential area of the future, and international
trains, if they ever stop there.


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In one of these cases is a change needed.


Oops, of course I meant in *none* of these cases is a change needed.




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