On 21/06/2011 08:00, Neil Williams wrote:
On Jun 20, 7:16 pm, wrote:

I recently paid £1.90 to ride an escalator. Up and down, mind you, so
that's only 95p a go. A few weeks later, I forked out £4.30 just to be
allowed down some stairs.

I was charged a fare in Singapore because I entered the barrier line,
found the bogs were outside it, left, went to the bog, went back in
and travelled.

FWIW, I think it should be free to enter and leave the same station
within a time too short to have travelled, say 10 mins.

Neil

Ah, but that constitutes a potential "pass back over" fraud. You enter,
stick the ticket back through an exit gate, wave at the paddles so they
close, and then your mate enters again on the same card. Repeat process
at end of journey. How often do you actually get gripped on the journey
and so get picked up for doing this?

If that restriction wasn't there, you can be sure the scrotes adn
ungodly would find out about this opportunity in around 30 secs!

Just my £0.02

Kevin

Kevin Ayton wrote:

On 21/06/2011 08:00, Neil Williams wrote:
On Jun 20, 7:16 pm, wrote:

I recently paid £1.90 to ride an escalator. Up and down, mind you, so
that's only 95p a go. A few weeks later, I forked out £4.30 just to be
allowed down some stairs.

I was charged a fare in Singapore because I entered the barrier line,
found the bogs were outside it, left, went to the bog, went back in
and travelled.

FWIW, I think it should be free to enter and leave the same station
within a time too short to have travelled, say 10 mins.

Neil

Ah, but that constitutes a potential "pass back over" fraud. You enter,
stick the ticket back through an exit gate, wave at the paddles so they
close, and then your mate enters again on the same card. Repeat process
at end of journey. How often do you actually get gripped on the journey
and so get picked up for doing this?

If that restriction wasn't there, you can be sure the scrotes adn
ungodly would find out about this opportunity in around 30 secs!

I can understand the scam that you think needs to be prevented, but the
system can no doubt be set up to spot patterns of activity like that,
and block the ticket if detected.

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On Jun 21, 10:28*am, Kevin Ayton wrote:

Ah, but that constitutes a potential "pass back over" fraud. You enter,
stick the ticket back through an exit gate, wave at the paddles so they
close, and then your mate enters again on the same card. Repeat process
at end of journey. How often do you actually get gripped on the journey
and so get picked up for doing this?

If that restriction wasn't there, you can be sure the scrotes adn
ungodly would find out about this opportunity in around 30 secs!

A different restriction could be that, overrideable by the person
manning the gateline who would presumably see it being done, if a
particular Oyster card has been used to enter that station it may not
be used again to enter that same station for, say, 10 minutes. That
way you wouldn't be charged for deciding not to travel, as at present
you are.

Neil