On Jul 11, 9:18*pm, "Richard J." wrote:

Zen83237 wrote on 11 July 2011 20:38:18 ...

If you'd confined your post to the fact that the train departed with the
doors open instead of ranting on and on about other things, you wouldn't
have had that reaction.

A train departing with open doors is serious, so perhaps you can tell us
more about the incident. *


I'd have to agree,

The ARE all sorts of protections about trains with doors **** etc.

If OP had confined rant to this aspect, or made this the headline,
instead of all the other rants I suspect it would be taken more
seriously.

AFAIK train moving off with doors open is RAIB, the recent FCC 377
incident near Kentish Town is with RAIB, they are less interested in
the cause of the train failure, more in why it subsequently moved with
open doors.

--
Nick

On Jul 11, 10:16*pm, D7666 wrote:

The ARE all sorts of protections about trains with doors **** etc.

Or even shut )

--
Nick

"Richard J." wrote in message
...
Zen83237 wrote on 11 July 2011 20:38:18 ...

Surley isn't too much to ****ing ask to have a safety cut, doors open,
train
can't go. Even I could design that.
You must work for LUL to support them for a safety failure.

If you'd confined your post to the fact that the train departed with the
doors open instead of ranting on and on about other things, you wouldn't
have had that reaction.

A train departing with open doors is serious, so perhaps you can tell us
more about the incident. Was it just one door that stayed open or were
they all open? Were they fully open or partly closed? Did you or anyone
else in your car press the alarm button as soon as the train moved with
doors open?

Sounds to me like an incident that RAIB should take an interest in.
--
Richard J.
(to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address)

Read about it and see the train in the Evening News. Very annoyed that LUL
lied about the incident to play it down.

"Zen83237" wrote:

"Mizter T" wrote:

How were your nearly killed on the train?

How is the ignorant so-and-so LU's responsibility?

Warren Street to Euston isn't very far to walk.

Cue a response calling me an apologist - I'm not, I'm just taking
issue with aspects of your rant which don't dispose me to look
favourably on your complaints. I was expecting a proper tale of real
woe. This ain't one. Get over yourself.

Well lets think about this. It is ok for tube trains to be in motion with
the doors open. This is in the rush hour. The trains are crowded people
are standing next to an open door, they can be accidently pushed or jolted
out of the train.
Had the incident not happened there would have been a mass exidus from the
station. So what if Warren Street is close to Euston, I have paid for
Hammersmith to Euston, not Warren Street.
Lets say somebody had been killed as a result. No doubt we would have
heard blah blah blah, lessons learnt blah blah blah.
This kind of lethagy caused the Kings Cross fire, blah blah lessons learnt
blah blah.
Surley isn't too much to ****ing ask to have a safety cut, doors open,
train can't go. Even I could design that.
You must work for LUL to support them for a safety failure.


I missed the crucial fact about the doors being open whilst the train was in
motion as it was buried in amongst the rest of your particularly un-Zen-like
rant - it would have been preferable if you had structured your post rather
differently and made the door issue your primary focus, because that is
indeed the overwhelming issue at hand - some guy barging into you on the
escalator, or having to walk from Warren St to Euston, are but tertiary
issues compared to that happening. A door of a train being open whilst it's
in motion is indeed a major safety issue and a serious concern. And no, I
don't work for LUL (or Bombardier etc).

In article , (Mizter T)
wrote:

*From:* "Mizter T"
*Date:* Tue, 12 Jul 2011 09:47:54 +0100

"Zen83237" wrote:

"Mizter T" wrote:

How were your nearly killed on the train?

How is the ignorant so-and-so LU's responsibility?

Warren Street to Euston isn't very far to walk.

Cue a response calling me an apologist - I'm not, I'm just
taking
issue with aspects of your rant which don't dispose me to look
favourably on your complaints. I was expecting a proper tale of
real
woe. This ain't one. Get over yourself.

Well lets think about this. It is ok for tube trains to be in
motion with the doors open. This is in the rush hour. The trains
are crowded people are standing next to an open door, they can be
accidently pushed or jolted out of the train.
Had the incident not happened there would have been a mass exidus
from the station. So what if Warren Street is close to Euston, I
have paid for Hammersmith to Euston, not Warren Street.
Lets say somebody had been killed as a result. No doubt we would
have heard blah blah blah, lessons learnt blah blah blah.
This kind of lethagy caused the Kings Cross fire, blah blah
lessons learnt blah blah.
Surley isn't too much to ****ing ask to have a safety cut, doors
open, train can't go. Even I could design that.
You must work for LUL to support them for a safety failure.


I missed the crucial fact about the doors being open whilst the
train was in motion as it was buried in amongst the rest of your
particularly un-Zen-like rant - it would have been preferable if
you had structured your post rather differently and made the door
issue your primary focus, because that is indeed the overwhelming
issue at hand - some guy barging into you on the escalator, or
having to walk from Warren St to Euston, are but tertiary issues
compared to that happening. A door of a train being open whilst
it's in motion is indeed a major safety issue and a serious
concern. And no, I don't work for LUL (or Bombardier etc).


I see the standard has some info.:
http://tinyurl.com/6yyk8pc

Roger

On 12/07/2011 12:31, wrote:
In , (Mizter T)
wrote:



I see the standard has some info.:
http://tinyurl.com/6yyk8pc

Roger

I love how the article starts off describing the passengers as "terrified."

"Mizter T" wrote in message
...

"Zen83237" wrote:

"Mizter T" wrote:

How were your nearly killed on the train?

How is the ignorant so-and-so LU's responsibility?

Warren Street to Euston isn't very far to walk.

Cue a response calling me an apologist - I'm not, I'm just taking
issue with aspects of your rant which don't dispose me to look
favourably on your complaints. I was expecting a proper tale of real
woe. This ain't one. Get over yourself.

Well lets think about this. It is ok for tube trains to be in motion with
the doors open. This is in the rush hour. The trains are crowded people
are standing next to an open door, they can be accidently pushed or
jolted out of the train.
Had the incident not happened there would have been a mass exidus from
the station. So what if Warren Street is close to Euston, I have paid for
Hammersmith to Euston, not Warren Street.
Lets say somebody had been killed as a result. No doubt we would have
heard blah blah blah, lessons learnt blah blah blah.
This kind of lethagy caused the Kings Cross fire, blah blah lessons
learnt blah blah.
Surley isn't too much to ****ing ask to have a safety cut, doors open,
train can't go. Even I could design that.
You must work for LUL to support them for a safety failure.


I missed the crucial fact about the doors being open whilst the train was
in motion as it was buried in amongst the rest of your particularly
un-Zen-like rant - it would have been preferable if you had structured
your post rather differently and made the door issue your primary focus,
because that is indeed the overwhelming issue at hand - some guy barging
into you on the escalator, or having to walk from Warren St to Euston, are
but tertiary issues compared to that happening. A door of a train being
open whilst it's in motion is indeed a major safety issue and a serious
concern. And no, I don't work for LUL (or Bombardier etc).
Not my problem if you can't read and digest a post. You did read about the
bit about the problems from Oxford Circus to Warren Street or did you miss
that as well.

Zen83237 wrote:


Not my problem if you can't read and digest a post.

I think you'll find it is your problem...

If you wish to communicate with other English speakers, it pays to write
clearly. Although I did get to the botom of what you were saying, it was
hard work and some facts remain unclear.

--
Tim Watts

"It might be a bit off topic but if you wanted to go from Hammersmith to
Euston why didn't you use the Hammersmith and City Line to Euston Square?

Just a thought

"Paul Rigg" wrote in message
...


"It might be a bit off topic but if you wanted to go from Hammersmith to
Euston why didn't you use the Hammersmith and City Line to Euston Square?

Just a thought


UMMMM because it is quicker?