On 06/08/2011 09:58, Mortimer wrote:
There's a bizarre article in the Harrogate newpaper
http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/harr...ivic_lea der/
which talks about rejuvenating the Leeds-York line (presumably the one
via Harrogate and Knaresborough) and it says "The proposal would see
trains from the London Underground brought up to Yorkshire to run on the
line.".

This has got to be a journalist's error. Surely they wouldn't electrify
the line with 4th rail (they probably wouldn't be allowed to under new
H&S rules) and replacing the current trains with LU ones would be a
retrograde step as regards comfort. I've actually found most of the
trains that run on that line are very good. There are some Pacers which
are crap, but the rest are 158s or something similar which are fairly
comfortable and have a good ride.

4th Rail isn't an absolute requirement to run LUL equipment, as we can
see with the 38 Stock on the Island line. That line just runs with

On 2011-08-07 09:58:25 +0000, said:

On 06/08/2011 09:58, Mortimer wrote:
There's a bizarre article in the Harrogate newpaper
http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/harr...ivic_lea der/
which

talks about rejuvenating the Leeds-York line (presumably the one
via Harrogate and Knaresborough) and it says "The proposal would see
trains from the London Underground brought up to Yorkshire to run on the
line.".

This has got to be a journalist's error. Surely they wouldn't electrify
the line with 4th rail (they probably wouldn't be allowed to under new
H&S rules) and replacing the current trains with LU ones would be a
retrograde step as regards comfort. I've actually found most of the
trains that run on that line are very good. There are some Pacers which
are crap, but the rest are 158s or something similar which are fairly
comfortable and have a good ride.

4th Rail isn't an absolute requirement to run LUL equipment, as we can
see with the 38 Stock on the Island line. That line just runs with

You didn't finish your

On 07/08/2011 11:21, Ken Wheatley wrote:
On 2011-08-07 09:58:25 +0000, said:

On 06/08/2011 09:58, Mortimer wrote:
There's a bizarre article in the Harrogate newpaper
http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/harr...ivic_lea der/

which

talks about rejuvenating the Leeds-York line (presumably the one
via Harrogate and Knaresborough) and it says "The proposal would see
trains from the London Underground brought up to Yorkshire to run on the
line.".

This has got to be a journalist's error. Surely they wouldn't electrify
the line with 4th rail (they probably wouldn't be allowed to under new
H&S rules) and replacing the current trains with LU ones would be a
retrograde step as regards comfort. I've actually found most of the
trains that run on that line are very good. There are some Pacers which
are crap, but the rest are 158s or something similar which are fairly
comfortable and have a good ride.

4th Rail isn't an absolute requirement to run LUL equipment, as we can
see with the 38 Stock on the Island line. That line just runs with

You didn't finish your


That line just operates with 3rd rail, I wanted to say.