On 26/08/11 20:09, MIG wrote:
Only been looking these groups again for about a week, and already
I've been accused of random violent crimes by a couple of the sicker
elements of society.

I won't be back.

Many, many more like them at Speak You're Branes
(ifyoulikeisomuchwhydontyougolivethere.com). Ignore them or laugh at
them, but don't waste time taking them seriously. And don't go away on
their account.

Ian

On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 11:14:37 +0100
The Real Doctor wrote:
them, but don't waste time taking them seriously. And don't go away on

Yes, much easier to put your head in the sand than admit to how a lot of
people in this country really feel isn't it. You can only ignore or suppress
grievances of the majority population for so long. If you want to know what the
end result of that can be I suggest you take a look at what happened in
Bosnia.

B2003

On 27/08/11 16:53, d wrote:
On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 11:14:37 +0100
The Real wrote:
them, but don't waste time taking them seriously. And don't go away on

Yes, much easier to put your head in the sand than admit to how a lot of
people in this country really feel isn't it. You can only ignore or suppress
grievances of the majority population for so long.

Yadda yadda yadda yadda. You're falling into your old trap of assuming
that all members of groups you choose to identify think the same. The
basic problem, though, and I come to this conclusion after some
consideration, is not that you're homophobe (though you clearly are), a
racist (ditto) or a religious bigot (ditto) but that you are, frankly,
as thick as pig****.

Rarely has the Dunning-Kruger effect been more clearly demonstrated.

Ian

On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 20:17:46 +0100, The Real Doctor
wrote:

On 27/08/11 16:53, d wrote:
On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 11:14:37 +0100
The Real wrote:
them, but don't waste time taking them seriously. And don't go away on

Yes, much easier to put your head in the sand than admit to how a lot of
people in this country really feel isn't it. You can only ignore or suppress
grievances of the majority population for so long.

Yadda yadda yadda yadda. You're falling into your old trap of assuming
that all members of groups you choose to identify think the same. The
basic problem, though, and I come to this conclusion after some
consideration, is not that you're homophobe (though you clearly are), a
racist (ditto) or a religious bigot (ditto) but that you are, frankly,
as thick as pig****.


OT: but to "The Real Doctor": thank you.

Rarely has the Dunning-Kruger effect been more clearly demonstrated.

Ian

On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 20:17:46 +0100
The Real Doctor wrote:
On 27/08/11 16:53, d wrote:
On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 11:14:37 +0100
The Real wrote:
them, but don't waste time taking them seriously. And don't go away on

Yes, much easier to put your head in the sand than admit to how a lot of
people in this country really feel isn't it. You can only ignore or suppress
grievances of the majority population for so long.

Yadda yadda yadda yadda. You're falling into your old trap of assuming
that all members of groups you choose to identify think the same. The
basic problem, though, and I come to this conclusion after some
consideration, is not that you're homophobe (though you clearly are), a
racist (ditto) or a religious bigot (ditto) but that you are, frankly,
as thick as pig****.

You don't agree with me, can't find a way to win your argument, ergo I'm
"as thick as pig****". Yeah, great debating technique you've got there. Really
ads gravitas to your arguments.

Rarely has the Dunning-Kruger effect been more clearly demonstrated.

Oh look, you can use wikipedia. Have a scooby snack.

B2003

On 29/08/11 09:23, d wrote:
On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 20:17:46 +0100
The Real wrote:

You don't agree with me, can't find a way to win your argument, ergo I'm
"as thick as pig****". Yeah, great debating technique you've got there. Really
ads gravitas to your arguments.

As I wrote, I came to the "thick as pig****" conclusion after some
consideration. It's clearly impossible to win any argument with you:
neither would I wish to try. I have more important things to do with my
life than convincing a deluded idiot that he's a deluded idiot, and what
in any case would convincing the deluded idiot that he's a deluded idiot
achieve?

Ian

On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 10:02:36 +0100
The Real Doctor wrote:
As I wrote, I came to the "thick as pig****" conclusion after some
consideration. It's clearly impossible to win any argument with you:
neither would I wish to try. I have more important things to do with my
life than convincing a deluded idiot that he's a deluded idiot, and what
in any case would convincing the deluded idiot that he's a deluded idiot
achieve?

Repeating a lame insult doesn't make it any more effective, it just makes
you look childish. But given you're probably a student I suspect thats
par for the course.

B2003

On 29/08/11 19:59, d wrote:
On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 10:02:36 +0100
The Real wrote:
As I wrote, I came to the "thick as pig****" conclusion after some
consideration. It's clearly impossible to win any argument with you:
neither would I wish to try. I have more important things to do with my
life than convincing a deluded idiot that he's a deluded idiot, and what
in any case would convincing the deluded idiot that he's a deluded idiot
achieve?

Repeating a lame insult doesn't make it any more effective, it just makes
you look childish. But given you're probably a student I suspect thats
par for the course.

Oh look, a lame insult.

Anyway, "deluded idiot" and "thick as pig****" are carefully honed
descriptions based on observation and evidence.

Ian

On 27/08/11 20:35, Paul Corfield wrote:
I might not like the Daily Mail "view" of life (or even views more
extreme than that) but I have to recognise a lot of people think that
way and you won't shift them from that position. It's why we regularly
elect Conservative governments in this country. Boltar is just one of
many who holds such views.

For me, it's less about politics and more about civility. For example,
anyone who writes:

: Oh boo hoo. Grow a pair you wuss.

as Boltar did upthread, should be ignored because he's a jerk, not
because he reads the Daily Mail.

T

On 28/08/11 04:35, Tom Nicholls wrote:

For me, it's less about politics and more about civility.

I don't think these nutcases even have much political importance. Sure,
they make a lot of noise on the comments pages of the Telegraph, Mail,
BBC (Speak You're Branes) and so on, but if they vote at all it will
almost certainly be for the lunatic fringe: UKIP, BNP etc.

My own infallible test for wackjobs is the use of "so-called": as soon
as you see references to "so-called experts" or the "so-call Human
Rights Act" you know that the author has significant problems with reality.

Ian