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On Mon, 5 Sep 2011, Mizter T wrote:

"Jamie Thompson" wrote:

On Sep 4, 11:59 pm, Mizter T wrote:

Also not sure what you mean about linking directly to a given bus stop
- you can bookmark each bus stop's individual page, and you can also
search for a specific bus stop using either the bus stop's name or
unique 5-digit code.


On the desktop version it's unfortunately all Javascript-heavy with no
real hyperlinks anywhere, so no pages to bookmark.


Not true, as Paul G has already pointed out - if you click on a
particular bus stop, then the bus stop's unique code will appear as part
of the URL in your browser's address bar (well it does for me)


Stops get a bookmarkable-ish URL, other things don't. However, using my
special web developer powers, i have also summoned this:

http://accessible.countdown.tfl.gov.uk/

Which is a non-javascript version where all the URLs are lovely:

http://accessible.countdown.tfl.gov....oud+green+road
http://accessible.countdown.tfl.gov....ocation/483458
http://accessible.countdown.tfl.gov.uk/arrivals/71018

There's also nothing stopping you using the mobile site from a desktop
browser:

http://m.countdown.tfl.gov.uk/search...oud+green+road
http://m.countdown.tfl.gov.uk/stopsNearLocation/483458
http://m.countdown.tfl.gov.uk/arrivals/71018

I would guess from the URLs that the accessible and mobile sites are the
same engine with slightly different output.

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Tom Anderson wrote

Stops get a bookmarkable-ish URL, other things don't. However, using

my
special web developer powers, i have also summoned this:

http://accessible.countdown.tfl.gov.uk/

Which is a non-javascript version where all [...]


Eh ?

A View Source seems to show lots of javascript.

All three versions are doing something my Kindle's browser doesn't like
which result in nothing I type into the search box appearing, indeed
this is also true of the site search box which works fine on other TfL
pages.

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On Fri, 9 Sep 2011, Michael R N Dolbear wrote:

Tom Anderson wrote

Stops get a bookmarkable-ish URL, other things don't. However, using my
special web developer powers, i have also summoned this:

http://accessible.countdown.tfl.gov.uk/

Which is a non-javascript version where all [...]


Eh ?

A View Source seems to show lots of javascript.


None of it essential. If you switch javascript off entirely, the
accessible site works perfectly (in Firefox on OS X and Linux, at least;
however, without javascript, it should be very portable).

All three versions are doing something my Kindle's browser doesn't like
which result in nothing I type into the search box appearing, indeed
this is also true of the site search box which works fine on other TfL
pages.


Interesting. Can you disable javascript? As i said, the accessible site
works perfectly without it on my browser, so there is a fighting chance it
will work on a Kindle. If a non-javascript site works on a desktop but not
a Kindle, that would be surprising and interesting. It would be worth
bringing to TfL's attention, although the Kindle might not be on their
list of supported browsers, even for the accessible site.

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Tom Anderson wrote
On Fri, 9 Sep 2011, Michael R N Dolbear wrote:


Eh ?

A View Source seems to show lots of javascript.


None of it essential. If you switch javascript off entirely, the
accessible site works perfectly (in Firefox on OS X and Linux, at

least; however, without javascript, it should be very portable).

All three versions are doing something my Kindle's browser doesn't

like which result in nothing I type into the search box appearing,
indeed this is also true of the site search box which works fine on
other
TfL pages.

Interesting. Can you disable javascript? As i said, the accessible

site works perfectly without it on my browser, so there is a fighting
chance it will work on a Kindle. If a non-javascript site works on a
desktop
but not a Kindle, that would be surprising and interesting. It would be
worth bringing to TfL's attention, although the Kindle might not be on
their
list of supported browsers, even for the accessible site.


the Kindel browser uses WebKit so results from Safari, Chrome and
Android would be of interest for the two site versions mentioned below

Yes, I can disable javascript on the Kindle browser and I was about to
type "it makes no difference" until I realised I had six tests to do.

So search text cannot be entered, javascript disabled or not, for :-
http://accessible.countdown.tfl.gov.uk/
http://m.countdown.tfl.gov.uk/

But CAN be entered, javascript disabled or not, for :-
http://countdown.tfl.gov.uk/

Which I thought I had tested.

Also at this point I found myself doing the same thing and getting
different results, since after the search I at first got an automatic
switch to the 'accessible' URL but after I had saved bus stops this no
longer happened. It then showed the saved stops while denying there
were any.

Thanks anyway.

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On Sep 9, 2:54*pm, "Michael R N Dolbear" wrote:
[...]
All three versions are doing something my Kindle's browser doesn't like
which result in nothing I type into the search box appearing, indeed
this is also true of the site search box which works fine on other TfL
pages.


Meanwhile the m-prefixed mobile version works fantastically well
(considering) on a pre-historic Nokia.


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