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![]() "John Levine" wrote in message ... This article at Gothamist has some video. It's a three or four car train, depending on which article you believe, running express between Times Sq and 96th streets on the 2/3 line, between 2 and 6 PM on weekends in September. The train is authentically free of A/C. Is this equipment that is normally at the transit museum, or is there a cache of old trains somewhere else? http://gothamist.com/2011/09/04/vide...k_empire_v.php Thanks for the reference. I grew up on those trains. There were some updates on the old cars. First, the ads made reference to HBO, which, of course, did not exist then. AC? Ha aha ha. The heating is under the straw seats. That was the old design. They had some in vinyl, red as I remember. The fans in the ceiling worked nicely. From the front, you could tell where a train was going by the color patterns of the lights. When I was small, the front lower lights were kerosene. This train had bright electric headlamps, an innovation which came much later. The Flatbush line had a red and white light on the top front. The New Lots Line had two red lights. When it came to the fork, the men who ran the switches could see where the train was supposed to go Later they had the train stop and the engineer had to push buttons to control the switch. The lights inside the train were always yellowish. It looked like either the exposure was off, or they had the PC lights installed. Also, the destination signs were gone: they were kept in boxes just below the signs at the end of each car. The conductor would, at the end of the line, walk through the cars changing the signs manually. Those shown said HBO, I believe. The video did include the sound of the old-style motors. What was missing from the vidos was how the train was made up. There were even older cars running when I started school. These were the "new" ones built by Pullman. As for the makeup, not all cars were powered. The first and last cars were powered, but the usual 10 car trains had "trailers" running second from the front and back, and one in the middle. I recall one train which had most of the cars as trailers. It stalled after getting a load they kicked us all off the President Street and we got to school late. You could tell which cars were trailers because there was no place for the engineer (engine driver). I used to always ride in the front car so I could watch the signals. I could not tell if the train shown had any trailers attached. Whoever did the videos did not know how to look for that. By 1960 almost nothing in NYC was air conditioned, not houses, cars or the subway either. |
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