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In message , at 11:23:29 on
Sun, 9 Oct 2011, Recliner remarked: How exactly does a rail link between LHR and LGW increase *air* capacity? The problem at Heathrow is said to be that the runways are 98% fully used. Gatwick is already the world's busiest single-runway airport. So how is this capacity increase achieved? Indeed, this link only makes sense if Gatwick gets its second runway. Equally, it would greatly strengthen the business case for that second runway. It's not allowed until after 2019, but of course, even if they started planning for it today, it wouldn't open this side of 2020. As far as I can see, 2019 is the earliest they can start building. Otherwise the point holds, and they'd need to rely on bigger planes to increase the passenger throughput - which Gatwick is already expecting. Of course, they aren't exactly breaking ground on this airport link in the foreseeable future, and it would probably take 8-10 years to complete. -- Roland Perry |
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"Roland Perry" wrote in message
In message , at 11:23:29 on Sun, 9 Oct 2011, Recliner remarked: How exactly does a rail link between LHR and LGW increase *air* capacity? The problem at Heathrow is said to be that the runways are 98% fully used. Gatwick is already the world's busiest single-runway airport. So how is this capacity increase achieved? Indeed, this link only makes sense if Gatwick gets its second runway. Equally, it would greatly strengthen the business case for that second runway. It's not allowed until after 2019, but of course, even if they started planning for it today, it wouldn't open this side of 2020. As far as I can see, 2019 is the earliest they can start building. Otherwise the point holds, and they'd need to rely on bigger planes to increase the passenger throughput - which Gatwick is already expecting. Of course, they aren't exactly breaking ground on this airport link in the foreseeable future, and it would probably take 8-10 years to complete. Yes, both the link and the airport expansion would have to be planned together. For example, would the new LGW runway be to the south or north of the existing runway? Would a new terminal be needed (I assume so)? Would the link carry both land-side and in-transit pax (in separate, secure compartments)? If the latter, its stations would have to be closely integrated into the terminals, with separate, segregated areas for both types of pax. I wouldn't expect it to open until well after 2020, even if the plans were well advanced already. |
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In message , at 12:25:46 on
Sun, 9 Oct 2011, Recliner remarked: As far as I can see, 2019 is the earliest they can start building. Otherwise the point holds, and they'd need to rely on bigger planes to increase the passenger throughput - which Gatwick is already expecting. Of course, they aren't exactly breaking ground on this airport link in the foreseeable future, and it would probably take 8-10 years to complete. Yes, both the link and the airport expansion would have to be planned together. For example, would the new LGW runway be to the south or north of the existing runway? Just over 1km to the South. Opening maybe 10yrs after getting PP. Would a new terminal be needed (I assume so)? Yes, in between the runways. But overall it doubles the area of the airport, including some facilities east of the railway. Would the link carry both land-side and in-transit pax (in separate, secure compartments)? Land-side, like Heathrow, is by far the most likely. If the latter, its stations would have to be closely integrated into the terminals, with separate, segregated areas for both types of pax. I wouldn't expect it to open until well after 2020, even if the plans were well advanced already. -- Roland Perry |
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