"Dr. Sunil" wrote in message
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Aren't Southern (and FCC) Class 377s all four-cars long? 3 x 4 = 12

No, Southern have a fair number of 3 car 377s, and they'll be used in the
next timetable to allow more 10 car services, 3+3+4.

I'm pretty sure the original 13 car question was just a typo though, however
the idea that trains were being removed from service now in order to make
longer trains later seems to betray a lack of understanding of what is meant
by 12 car services...

FCC are going to be sub-hired from SN (on weekdays only for 2 years or more)
3 x 4 car units to run as one 12 car in 4+4+4 formation. These will
displace two existing 377/5s to run as third cars on a couple of other 8 car
trains, in 4+4+4 formation. Organising this is an overnight job - it will
have no bearing whatsoever on today's problems.

Paul S

"Paul Scott" wrote in message
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FCC are going to be sub-hired from SN (on weekdays only for 2 years or
more)

Sorry, that bit should have read

'FCC are going to have, sub-hired from SN etc...'

Paul

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(Roy Stilling) wrote:

On Oct 26, 6:39 pm, "Graham Harrison"
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Could you make them up from combinations of class 377 units?

Is it technically feasible 3+3+3+4?

I guess Southeastern could replace a 3x375/[6|7|8|9] with a 4x375/3,
but I never saw it happen. Can Electrostars multiple more than three
units together?

Don't Southern run some 12-car trains as 4 x 3-car?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Yes, used to be quite common on Brighton fast services.

--
DAS

In the days of nationalised British Railways most Brighton fast services were 12 car trains; and they didn't stop at Clapham Junction either.

In article ,
(Robin9) wrote:

'D A Stocks[_2_ Wrote:
;123973'] Don't Southern run some 12-car trains as 4 x 3-car?

Yes, used to be quite common on Brighton fast services.

In the days of nationalised British Railways most Brighton fast services
were 12 car trains; and they didn't stop at Clapham Junction either.

But how frequent were they?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

"Robin9" wrote in message
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'D A Stocks[_2_ Wrote:
;123973'] Don't Southern run some 12-car trains as 4 x 3-car?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Yes, used to be quite common on Brighton fast services.

--
DAS
In the days of nationalised British Railways most Brighton fast services
were 12 car trains; and they didn't stop at Clapham Junction either.

But they weren't 4 x 3-car, which was the question I was answering.

There were mixed 2, 3 and 4 car formations of SR slam-door stock, but I
don't know if it was possible to run more than 3 units coupled in service
,,,

--
DAS

In article , (D A Stocks)
wrote:

"Robin9" wrote in message
...

'D A Stocks[_2_ Wrote:
;123973'] Don't Southern run some 12-car trains as 4 x 3-car?

Yes, used to be quite common on Brighton fast services.

In the days of nationalised British Railways most Brighton fast services
were 12 car trains; and they didn't stop at Clapham Junction either.

But they weren't 4 x 3-car, which was the question I was answering.

There were mixed 2, 3 and 4 car formations of SR slam-door stock, but
I don't know if it was possible to run more than 3 units coupled in
service ,,,

3 car SR units had disappeared by the time I was a lad.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

On Oct 30, 8:07*pm, wrote:
In article , (D A Stocks)
wrote:





"Robin9" wrote in message
...

'D A Stocks[_2_ Wrote:
;123973'] *Don't Southern run some 12-car trains as 4 x 3-car?

Yes, used to be quite common on Brighton fast services.

In the days of nationalised British Railways most Brighton fast services
were 12 car trains; and they didn't stop at Clapham Junction either.

But they weren't 4 x 3-car, which was the question I was answering.

There were mixed 2, 3 and 4 car formations of SR slam-door stock, but
I don't know if it was possible to run more than 3 units coupled in
service ,,,

3 car SR units had disappeared by the time I was a lad.

--
Colin Rosenstiel- Hide quoted text -

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There would have been some SR DEMUs well into the 90s, no? Off the top
of my head, the 204, 205 and 207s were all three-car.

On Oct 30, 4:05*pm, wrote:
In article ,

(Robin9) wrote:
'D A Stocks[_2_ Wrote:
;123973'] *Don't Southern run some 12-car trains as 4 x 3-car?

Yes, used to be quite common on Brighton fast services.

In the days of nationalised British Railways most Brighton fast services
were 12 car trains; and they didn't stop at Clapham Junction either.

But how frequent were they?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

London to Brighton in 4 minutes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7GXWuTwkF8

On Oct 28, 9:14*am, "Paul Scott"
wrote:
"Dr. Sunil" wrote in message

news:cf4437ba-41f7-485e-b686-.



Aren't Southern (and FCC) Class 377s all four-cars long? 3 x 4 = 12

No, Southern have a fair number of 3 car 377s, and they'll be used in the
next timetable to allow more 10 car services, 3+3+4.

I'm pretty sure the original 13 car question was just a typo though, however
the idea that trains were being removed from service now in order to make
longer trains later seems to betray a lack of understanding of what is meant
by 12 car services...

FCC are going to be sub-hired from SN (on weekdays only for 2 years or more)
3 x 4 car units to run as one 12 car in 4+4+4 formation. *These will
displace two existing 377/5s to run as third cars on a couple of other 8 car
trains, in 4+4+4 formation. *Organising this is an overnight job - it will
have no bearing whatsoever on today's problems.

Paul S

Ah, I see, forgot about those. Thanks!