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On Oct 26, 7:48*am, wrote:
Which line? There are no 13 car trains on FCC nor any plans for
them.

Are there any plans for 13 car trains *anywhere* on the network?

Could you make them up from combinations of class 377 units?

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Colin Rosenstiel

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(Roy Stilling) wrote:

On Oct 26, 7:48 am, wrote:
Which line? There are no 13 car trains on FCC nor any plans for
them.

Are there any plans for 13 car trains *anywhere* on the network?

Could you make them up from combinations of class 377 units?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Is it technically feasible 3+3+3+4?

On Oct 26, 6:39*pm, "Graham Harrison"
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Could you make them up from combinations of class 377 units?

Is it technically feasible 3+3+3+4?

I guess Southeastern could replace a 3x375/[6|7|8|9] with a 4x375/3,
but I never saw it happen. Can Electrostars multiple more than three
units together?
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Roy

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(Roy Stilling) wrote:

On Oct 26, 6:39*pm, "Graham Harrison"
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Could you make them up from combinations of class 377 units?

Is it technically feasible 3+3+3+4?

I guess Southeastern could replace a 3x375/[6|7|8|9] with a 4x375/3,
but I never saw it happen. Can Electrostars multiple more than three
units together?

Don't Southern run some 12-car trains as 4 x 3-car?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

On Oct 27, 6:54*pm, wrote:
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(Roy Stilling) wrote:
On Oct 26, 6:39 pm, "Graham Harrison"
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Could you make them up from combinations of class 377 units?

Is it technically feasible 3+3+3+4?

I guess Southeastern could replace a 3x375/[6|7|8|9] with a 4x375/3,
but I never saw it happen. *Can Electrostars multiple more than three
units together?

Don't Southern run some 12-car trains as 4 x 3-car?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

The Thameslink route will be 12-cars long - they've been extending
platforms over the last couple of years, and the extensions are
largely complete, such as at West Hampstead, Mill Hill etc. Kentish
Town and Hendon however is not being extended as far as I can tell.
Southeastern have had 12 car platforms for years. c2c are also
extending their platforms to 12-cars.

Aren't Southern (and FCC) Class 377s all four-cars long? 3 x 4 = 12

"Dr. Sunil" wrote in message
news:cf4437ba-41f7-485e-b686-.

Aren't Southern (and FCC) Class 377s all four-cars long? 3 x 4 = 12

No, Southern have a fair number of 3 car 377s, and they'll be used in the
next timetable to allow more 10 car services, 3+3+4.

I'm pretty sure the original 13 car question was just a typo though, however
the idea that trains were being removed from service now in order to make
longer trains later seems to betray a lack of understanding of what is meant
by 12 car services...

FCC are going to be sub-hired from SN (on weekdays only for 2 years or more)
3 x 4 car units to run as one 12 car in 4+4+4 formation. These will
displace two existing 377/5s to run as third cars on a couple of other 8 car
trains, in 4+4+4 formation. Organising this is an overnight job - it will
have no bearing whatsoever on today's problems.

Paul S

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FCC are going to be sub-hired from SN (on weekdays only for 2 years or
more)

Sorry, that bit should have read

'FCC are going to have, sub-hired from SN etc...'

Paul

On Oct 28, 9:14*am, "Paul Scott"
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"Dr. Sunil" wrote in message

news:cf4437ba-41f7-485e-b686-.



Aren't Southern (and FCC) Class 377s all four-cars long? 3 x 4 = 12

No, Southern have a fair number of 3 car 377s, and they'll be used in the
next timetable to allow more 10 car services, 3+3+4.

I'm pretty sure the original 13 car question was just a typo though, however
the idea that trains were being removed from service now in order to make
longer trains later seems to betray a lack of understanding of what is meant
by 12 car services...

FCC are going to be sub-hired from SN (on weekdays only for 2 years or more)
3 x 4 car units to run as one 12 car in 4+4+4 formation. *These will
displace two existing 377/5s to run as third cars on a couple of other 8 car
trains, in 4+4+4 formation. *Organising this is an overnight job - it will
have no bearing whatsoever on today's problems.

Paul S

Ah, I see, forgot about those. Thanks!

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(Roy Stilling) wrote:

On Oct 26, 6:39 pm, "Graham Harrison"
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Could you make them up from combinations of class 377 units?

Is it technically feasible 3+3+3+4?

I guess Southeastern could replace a 3x375/[6|7|8|9] with a 4x375/3,
but I never saw it happen. Can Electrostars multiple more than three
units together?

Don't Southern run some 12-car trains as 4 x 3-car?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Yes, used to be quite common on Brighton fast services.

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DAS

In the days of nationalised British Railways most Brighton fast services were 12 car trains; and they didn't stop at Clapham Junction either.