On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 17:05:14 +0000, Robin9 wrote:

Regardless of any ambitions Wandsworth Council may have, the top
priority for extending the Northern Line should be a line from
Kennington to Clapham Junction. The biggest single anomaly in London's
public transport system is the fact that the busiest station in the U.
K. is in London but is not connected to the Underground. If Wandsworth
Council want such a line to continue south from Clapham Junction, all
well and good but an extension that by-passes Clapham Junction should
not be allowed.

Would the Northen Line have enough capaity to cope with the increase in
passengers a station at Clapham Junction would generate?

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On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 17:05:14 +0000, Robin9 wrote:

Regardless of any ambitions Wandsworth Council may have, the top
priority for extending the Northern Line should be a line from
Kennington to Clapham Junction. The biggest single anomaly in London's
public transport system is the fact that the busiest station in the U.
K. is in London but is not connected to the Underground. If Wandsworth
Council want such a line to continue south from Clapham Junction, all
well and good but an extension that by-passes Clapham Junction should
not be allowed.

Would the Northen Line have enough capaity to cope with the increase in
passengers a station at Clapham Junction would generate?

Of course not. That'll be the reason TfL have already decided they won't
be taking the Northern Line to Clapham Jn...

Paul S

On Nov 17, 9:25*pm, "Paul Scott"
wrote:
"Jarle H Knudsen" wrote in messagenews:12lyif566z9r6$.1adstjft190o1$.dlg@40tu de.net...

On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 17:05:14 +0000, Robin9 wrote:

Regardless of any ambitions Wandsworth Council may have, the top
priority for extending the Northern Line should be a line from
Kennington to Clapham Junction. The biggest single anomaly in London's
public transport system is the fact that the busiest station in the U.
K. is in London but is not connected to the Underground. If Wandsworth
Council want such a line to continue south from Clapham Junction, all
well and good but an extension that by-passes Clapham Junction should
not be allowed.

Would the Northen Line have enough capaity to cope with the increase in
passengers a station at Clapham Junction would generate?

Of course not. * That'll be the reason TfL have already decided they won't
be taking the Northern Line to Clapham Jn...

I've still not heard a good argument why someone would get off a fast
train at Clapham Junction to take a slow tube to Waterloo....where
that fast train was going anyway. Perhaps for the services going to
Victoria, but why wouldn't you just stay on the train and take the
District from Victoria? I think a station at Clapham Junction would do
wonders for serving the local area if done correctly, and to the same
end I'd add a few more. Clapham Junction, Battersea Central (on
Battersea Park Road), Battersea Park (proper unified station, not the
3 disparate ones we will end up with), Nine Elms, then Vauxhall.

Jamie Thompson wrote:

I've still not heard a good argument why someone would get off a fast
train at Clapham Junction to take a slow tube to Waterloo....where
that fast train was going anyway.

If it's anything like Stratford & Liverpool Street, part of the attraction
is that you're more likely to get a seat if you board at Stratford, plus the
connection at Stratford is easier. I assume a Clapham Junction tube station
would have a better layout for interchange than Waterloo, although obviously
it won't be cross-platform interchange with metro services.

On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 14:38:12 -0800 (PST)
Jamie Thompson wrote:
I've still not heard a good argument why someone would get off a fast
train at Clapham Junction to take a slow tube to Waterloo....where
that fast train was going anyway. Perhaps for the services going to

Quite. The only reason clapham junction is busy is because its a junction, its
not because anyone actually wants to visit that godforsaken dump. They just
change trains there. What would be the point of a tube line going there?

B2003

1) To relieve the pressure on Waterloo and Victoria at peak times.

2) To facilitate easier travel between the City and destinations served via Clapham Junction.

You seem to have overlooked the fact that many, perhaps most, of the travellers who alight at Victoria and Waterloo do not want to be at those places anymore than people wish to be at Clapham Junction. Consequently huge numbers of passengers try, not always successfully, to access the Underground at those two stations.

TfL is now spending an astronomical sum to expand the capacity of Victoria Underground Station to cope with peak demand that lasts . . . how long? Two, perhaps three hours a day? Five days a week? About forty-five weeks a year? And did not TfL spend a large amount of money on Victoria a few years ago?

Incidentally there are many who would disagree with your assessment of that part of Battersea.

"Jamie Thompson" wrote in message
...
...I think a station at Clapham Junction would do
wonders for serving the local area if done correctly, and to the same
end I'd add a few more. Clapham Junction, Battersea Central (on
Battersea Park Road), Battersea Park (proper unified station, not the
3 disparate ones we will end up with), Nine Elms, then Vauxhall.

TfL have also explained that there can't be an interchange at Vauxhall,
IIRC... Only the Charing Cross branch can possibly handle the increase in
passengers.

Paul S

On Nov 18, 10:36*am, "Paul Scott"
wrote:
TfL have also explained that there can't be an interchange at Vauxhall,
IIRC... *Only the Charing Cross branch can possibly handle the increase in
passengers.

....which I firmly disagree with. Though IIRC, they only said it would
be slightly more expensive to build than a normal station. Loading-
wise, the Victoria line as-is probably couldn't take the loads, true
(though a large chunk will be joining the Vic Line at Victoria
anyway), but once Chelney arrives it will be able to, and we'll wish
the line ran under Vauxhall with platform tunnels already excavated
waiting to be fitted out. Basic planning people - it's not rocket
science.

It's a transport network after all...what's the point if you aren't
going to build interchanges - it's like we're heading back to the
tubes as--built where interchange were a novelty as they didn't want
you using competing company's lines.

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Jamie Thompson writes
but once Chelney arrives
What's "Chelney"?
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Clive

In message , Clive
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What's "Chelney"?

The Chelsea-Hackney line, more properly known as Crossrail 2.
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Paul Terry