Paul Corfield wrote:
On Wed, 07 Jan 2004 14:26:15 GMT, "Richard J."
wrote:

Some residents who live above the proposed line of the Crossrail
tunnels are concerned about possible noise and vibration in their
homes when the trains are running. Is there anyone on utl who lives
or works directly above an existing tube (not sub-surface) tunnel?
If so, do you experience any noise and vibration?

I don't live above a tube tunnel. However the Crossrail tunnels are
likely to be far deeper than tube tunnels.

Actually the Crossrail tunnel from the Great Western main line to Chiswick
will be 17 - 18 metres below the surface, which I think is about average
for tube tunnels in London.

Even in Central London, the Crossrail tunnels will run *above* the Jubilee,
Northern, Central, and Piccadilly lines in the Oxford Stret/Holborn area.
There is a vertical section through the central part of the route at
http://www.crossrail.co.uk/80256B090053AF4C/Files/genericpanels/$FILE/central+london+stations.pdf

--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

On Wed, 07 Jan 2004 23:27:44 GMT, "Richard J."
wrote:

Paul Corfield wrote:
I don't live above a tube tunnel. However the Crossrail tunnels are
likely to be far deeper than tube tunnels.

Actually the Crossrail tunnel from the Great Western main line to Chiswick
will be 17 - 18 metres below the surface, which I think is about average
for tube tunnels in London.

Even in Central London, the Crossrail tunnels will run *above* the Jubilee,
Northern, Central, and Piccadilly lines in the Oxford Stret/Holborn area.
There is a vertical section through the central part of the route at
http://www.crossrail.co.uk/80256B090053AF4C/Files/genericpanels/$FILE/central+london+stations.pdf

yes - I did say "likely to be", not definitely.

anyway - are you collating these comments as some sort of evidence to
mount a challenge to the Crossrail or to stop a challenge?
--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!

Paul Corfield wrote:

anyway - are you collating these comments as some sort of evidence to
mount a challenge to the Crossrail or to stop a challenge?

Crossrail have said that they will design the tunnels and tracks "with the
aim that noise levels in overlying buildings will be below the significance
criteria of 40 dB(LAmax,S)". That doesn't mean much to most people, and I
wanted to find out what was being experieced at present. No comments so
far from the JLE, which would be interesting as an example of a modern
line.

--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

"Richard J." wrote in
:

Paul Corfield wrote:
On Wed, 07 Jan 2004 14:26:15 GMT, "Richard J."
wrote:

Some residents who live above the proposed line of the Crossrail
tunnels are concerned about possible noise and vibration in their
homes when the trains are running. Is there anyone on utl who lives
or works directly above an existing tube (not sub-surface) tunnel?
If so, do you experience any noise and vibration?

I don't live above a tube tunnel. However the Crossrail tunnels are
likely to be far deeper than tube tunnels.

Actually the Crossrail tunnel from the Great Western main line to
Chiswick will be 17 - 18 metres below the surface, which I think is
about average for tube tunnels in London.

Even in Central London, the Crossrail tunnels will run *above* the
Jubilee, Northern, Central, and Piccadilly lines in the Oxford
Stret/Holborn area. There is a vertical section through the central
part of the route at
http://www.crossrail.co.uk/80256B090...genericpanels/
$FILE/c
entral+london+stations.pdf


any one spot a possible error in the typical station design?

In message , woutster
writes
any one spot a possible error in the typical station design?

The lifts are misnamed (street level to ticket hall, and ticket hall to
platform, are transposed).
--
Roland Perry

woutster wrote:
"Richard J." wrote in
:

Even in Central London, the Crossrail tunnels will run *above* the
Jubilee, Northern, Central, and Piccadilly lines in the Oxford
Stret/Holborn area. There is a vertical section through the central
part of the route at

http://www.crossrail.co.uk/80256B090053AF4C/Files/genericpanels/$FILE/central+london+stations.pdf


any one spot a possible error in the typical station design?

They've got the two western lifts labelled the wrong way round, but that's
a presentation fault, not an error with the design.

--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

"Richard J." wrote in
:

woutster wrote:
"Richard J." wrote in
:

Even in Central London, the Crossrail tunnels will run *above* the
Jubilee, Northern, Central, and Piccadilly lines in the Oxford
Stret/Holborn area. There is a vertical section through the central
part of the route at

http://www.crossrail.co.uk/80256B090...genericpanels/
$FILE/c
entral+london+stations.pdf


any one spot a possible error in the typical station design?

They've got the two western lifts labelled the wrong way round, but
that's a presentation fault, not an error with the design.


admitidly not an error in design, but still an issue that should have
been noticed before publication