In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

In message , at
23:44:00 on Sun, 8 Jan 2012, Bolwerk remarked:
I don't really ever see a need to go to the bank, and if I do
I prefer to use the ATM and skip the line.

Here in the UK the ATMs often have a line as well.

And getting back to trains, so do automatic ticket machines, which
can have a longer line than the windows. But pre-purchased tickets
can only be collected from the machines.

No, actually. You can collect ToD tickets from ticket windows. I've done it.

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Colin Rosenstiel

In message , at 06:44:23
on Tue, 10 Jan 2012, remarked:

But pre-purchased tickets can only be collected from the machines.

No, actually. You can collect ToD tickets from ticket windows. I've done it.

You can, but it needs "full ID". And they are very grumpy about it.
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Roland Perry

In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

In message , at
06:44:23 on Tue, 10 Jan 2012, remarked:

But pre-purchased tickets can only be collected from the machines.

No, actually. You can collect ToD tickets from ticket windows. I've
done it.

You can, but it needs "full ID". And they are very grumpy about it.

Not my experience. I couldn't collect by machine because the Shere machines
refused to recognise my Visa card for ToD purposes (they were happy to take
money off it) and the Scheid & Bachmann machine was out of order so I had no
alternative and started by asking what to do because I didn't think I could
collect from a ticket window. They were incredibly kind and helpful.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

In message , at 09:11:23
on Tue, 10 Jan 2012, remarked:
But pre-purchased tickets can only be collected from the machines.

No, actually. You can collect ToD tickets from ticket windows. I've
done it.

You can, but it needs "full ID". And they are very grumpy about it.

Not my experience. I couldn't collect by machine because the Shere machines
refused to recognise my Visa card for ToD purposes (they were happy to take
money off it) and the Scheid & Bachmann machine was out of order so I had no
alternative and started by asking what to do because I didn't think I could
collect from a ticket window. They were incredibly kind and helpful.

Maybe they like you. My experience has ranged from "it's the Internet
and nothing to do with us" to having to go back home to get more ID than
a [different] credit card plus photo driving licence.

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Roland Perry

wrote in
:

And getting back to trains, so do automatic ticket machines, which
can have a longer line than the windows. But pre-purchased tickets
can only be collected from the machines.

No, actually. You can collect ToD tickets from ticket windows. I've
done it.

It seems to depend where you are. In Southern territory I've done it
several times, but at a Northern station I was told it couldn't be done.

Peter CS

"Peter Campbell Smith" wrote in message
...
wrote in
:

And getting back to trains, so do automatic ticket machines, which
can have a longer line than the windows. But pre-purchased tickets
can only be collected from the machines.

No, actually. You can collect ToD tickets from ticket windows. I've
done it.

It seems to depend where you are. In Southern territory I've done it
several times, but at a Northern station I was told it couldn't be done.

SWT's normal starting point is that you cannot collect 'TOD' from a ticket
office window, that's what the machines are there for. Of course that
could come from either staff or management, there's no way of telling.

Paul

In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

In message , at
09:11:23 on Tue, 10 Jan 2012, remarked:
But pre-purchased tickets can only be collected from the machines.

No, actually. You can collect ToD tickets from ticket windows. I've
done it.

You can, but it needs "full ID". And they are very grumpy about it.

Not my experience. I couldn't collect by machine because the Shere
machines refused to recognise my Visa card for ToD purposes (they were
happy to take money off it) and the Scheid & Bachmann machine was out of
order so I had no alternative and started by asking what to do because
I didn't think I could collect from a ticket window. They were
incredibly kind and helpful.

Maybe they like you. My experience has ranged from "it's the Internet
and nothing to do with us" to having to go back home to get more ID
than a [different] credit card plus photo driving licence.

That's ridiculous. They can have no legitimate need for more identification
than a machine needs. Did you complain to the TOC involved?

I should add that I have since collected other ToD tickets from a Cambridge
ticket window.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

John Levine wrote:
In the NY area, ATMs tend to be located in an inside lobby, with a
latch on the door you can open by swiping any ATM or credit card.

Not just an ATM or credit card -- anything with a magstripe.
Including a Metrocard, which has a totally different encoding scheme.

It's clear the door lock devices aren't reading your complete card
number, since you only have to put your card in a fraction of an inch
before the door unlocks.

Jimmy

On 09/01/2012 21:33, wrote:
On Jan 9, 10:30 am, wrote:

While people at ATMs are usually doing fast transactions, there are
usually more of them on line than there are on a teller's line.
Unfortunately, when you get on a teller line, you usually are behind
some bozo who wants to do 6 months of banking in one visit.

I always thought that this just happens with me, especially when I just
want to complete one very quick transaction or buy one postage stamp.

On 09/01/2012 23:59, Martin Rich wrote:

"Tim Roll-Pickering" wrote in message
...
Roland Perry wrote:


Midland/HSBC were quite big on them back in the 1990s - it was one of
the reasons I took my first child account with them. They were
originally ATM card accessible but following cases of fake machines
designed to capture card details being placed on doors in the mid
2000s they moved over to a completely open-access, press a button
model. Then they found the lobbies were becoming unsafe and nasty - I
wonder why - and so moved to phase them out altogether.


My local HSBC had a lobby which was removed and replaced with outside
ATMs a year or two back. I didn't know abut the fake machines outside
lobbies although I have heard of similar scams to capture card details.
Incidentally most HSBC branches still have ATMs inside and in my
experience tend to be laid out to dissuade customers from joining a
queue and dealing with a human

Martin
Much more prefer to just do it yourself, rather than deal with a nasty
human.