Am 01.01.2012 23:21, schrieb Hans-Joachim Zierke:
Some days ago, I did my first really long ride in one of those
contraptions, Mainz-Karlsruhe, and it is outright horrible. We can only
pray, that DB looses all the contracts, which they run with 425s.

which is a journey of 1h35, and a Class 425 is not intended for such
long journeys.

Bur if you plan a journey using only local trains taking a total of
nearly 12 hours, instead of a regular connection of 7.5 hours ... well,
it is your choice.


Cheers,
L.W.

Am 02.01.2012 01:10, schrieb The Real Doctor:
On 31/12/11 12:54, Lüko Willms wrote:
He likes to point to the difference between workers in, say Hamburg or
Munich, who have lived all their lives under capitalism and those pesky
railway workers in Berlin who have not, and wants to subjugate those
into submission.

fantasizing again with tales not related to the issue in discussion:

Why did your comrades in (Ost)Berlin feel it necessary to kill railway
workers there who wanted to work in Hamburg, while the authorities in
Hamburg did not take similar action against railway workers who wished
to move eastwards?

back to topic:

I think this is very relevant to your claim that DR workers had a better
deal than DB workers.

Ask Herr Schnell. He is at least as reactionay as you are. He wants
that the Berlin railway workers be brought completely under the
capitalist whip, being humiliated, being thrown into misery, so that
they forget once and for all those conquests which they had won over the
past four decades before the GDR had been taken over by the German
capitalist class.

The difference which you prefer to ignore (because of your abysmal
hatred of facts) is that the GDR has not been conquered by NATO tanks
crossing the border, but by a popular uprising. And those people rising
up against their regime was to get _better_ conditions, not _worse._
Unfortunately most had a bad awakening when they suffered the
de-industrialisation of the ex-GDR organized by the West German
commissioners. But rail in Berlin was not something to be dismantled --
so different conditions. Railway workers in Berlin had more clout to
defend themselves than, say, shipyard workers in Rostock, or machinery
builders in Magdeburg.

But why should I bother you with facts which you want to ignore at
all cost!


L.W.

Am 02.01.2012 11:46, schrieb ian batten:

dreaming up some insults:

He
thinks that Hungary 1956 and Czechoslovakia 1968 were justified
reactions to western imperialism. That's why he isn't busy denying
Stalin killed anyone and if he did they they deserved it anyway.

You should be jailed for such lies.

Am 02.01.2012 01:19, schrieb The Real Doctor:
And have a hangover from the colonial
empires.

Do you mean middle class idealists in Germany who defend the decades of
brutal soviet colonialism in Europe, or is this a reference to the
expansionist desires of the Spanish colonial descendants in Buenos Aires?

No, I mean people like you are are nostalic of the past imperialist
glories of their masters, of Hitler, of the British Empire (which is
still creating "commanders", I read in today's paper), of "Algerie
Française", slavery, the genocide of the American Indians, the Spanish
Inquisition, and what have you.

Disgusting

Am 02.01.2012 01:20, schrieb The Real Doctor:

describing his activities:

Excellent, personal abuse.

Am 02.01.2012 01:40, schrieb Wolfgang Schwanke:

There's no space left for the unideological middle ground.

Someone with such blinding ideological glasses like you...

Am 01.01.2012 23:27, schrieb Neil Williams:

If it's owned by the Government it's nationalised, whatever means that
ownership may take, IMO.

you have a strange concept of "nationalization"

Do you really believe that the composition of the shareholders makes
a qualitative difference for the commercial activity of a company?

At which percentage of ownership by a state entity does a company
stop being "really a commercial operator"?

Do you really believe this idiotic nonsense?

What about the Rothaus brewery, just to cite one little example?
Commerzbank?


L.W.

Am 01.01.2012 23:08, schrieb Oliver Schnell:

keeping that last socialistic company in Germany alive

Those reactionary fools like the various Ians, please take note.


L.W.

Am 02.01.2012 09:39, schrieb Oliver Schnell:
Alternatively I would like to have an explanation, why public transport in
Berlin has to be so much less efficient.

It is not less efficient, but less profitable.

And you have spelled out your reasoning in another contribution to
this thread by labelling the S-Bahn Berlin GmbH as "the last socialistic
company" in Germany.

In other words, you want to bring the Berlin railway workers
completely under the capitalist yoke, make them lose the last conquests
of working conditions which they had acquired in the four decades before
the GDR had been taken over by the Western separate state.


L.W.

"Lüko Willms" wrote in message


Ask Herr Schnell. He is at least as reactionay as you are. He wants
that the Berlin railway workers be brought completely under the
capitalist whip, being humiliated, being thrown into misery, so that
they forget once and for all those conquests which they had won over
the past four decades before the GDR had been taken over by the German
capitalist class.

Presumably they are desperate to get rid of those awful VWs, Audis, BMWs
and Mercedes vehicles and return to the fabulous Trabants they were so
pleased to drive in the past?