Am 03.01.2012 00:44, schrieb Wolfgang Schwanke:
Social-democrat.

So I'm a loony left social democrat. Can you folks first agree on what
to call me and then insult me?

You asked, and I call you the same as I always called Karsten Voigt.

Your main problem is that you believe all the propaganda lies which
you have been fed from the propaganda ministry or "Bundesanstalt für
politische Bildung".

I know you.


Cheers,
L.W.

Am 02.01.2012 19:39, schrieb The Real Doctor:
No, I mean people like you are are nostalic of the past imperialist
glories of their masters,

Nope.

of Hitler,

Don't be silly. I'm not the one claiming that Hitler's aggression was
prompted by a desire to free the oppressed of the British empire.

Well, it doesn't matter if you adore the English equivalent.

Types like you, if they are German, are nostalgic of imperialist
policies of the _German_ capitalist class, as embodied by Kaiser Wilhelm
(the one of the hun speech) and Hitler. It doesn't matter which chief
robber a friend of robbery does adore, what counts is that he adores the
imperialist robbery.


L.W.

Am 03.01.2012 00:19, schrieb Charles Ellson:
dreaming up some insults:

He
thinks that Hungary 1956 and Czechoslovakia 1968 were justified
reactions to western imperialism. That's why he isn't busy denying
Stalin killed anyone and if he did they they deserved it anyway.

You should be jailed for such lies.

For what criminal offence ?

insult. Claiming false facts to denigrate the standing of other
people, against better knowledge.

Am 02.01.2012 19:08, schrieb ian batten:
So tell us about 1956 and 1968.

We are talkaing about the Berlin railway workers of today, and the
whish of Herr Schnell to smash them as belonging to "the last
socialistic company".

You try to avoid the subject of this discussion as the devil shies
away from the holy water.

Say something about the subject of the discussion, or shut up.


L.W.

Am 02.01.2012 19:35, schrieb The Real Doctor:
They wanted West German conditions. They got 'em.

Why don't you consider the plans advanced by Herr Schnell to smash
the Berlin railway workers because they work "the last socialistic
company" in Germany? Obviously your cothinker does not thing that the
Berlin railway workers did get all West German conditions. He thinks
that they have too much of what he calls "socialistic" conditions and
wants to take them away so that the Berlin S-Bahn can be operated as a
real profit producting capitalistic company, which according to your
cothinker requires to take away from those workers conquests they had
gotten in GDR times?

Look into those facts, and do not always try to avoid the subject of
our discussion like the plague!

Am 02.01.2012 18:10, schrieb Clark F Morris:
Apparently various airlines are experimenting with very thin back
seats, maybe a webbing type back which allow the seats to be closer
together yet still give enough room for comfort. I saw an article on
this in the Wall Street Journal and I THINK one of the airlines was
Lufthansa.

DB will have those on their new intercity stock, the one which has
been tendered as "ICx".


Cheers,
L.W.

Am 03.01.2012 00:57, schrieb The Real Doctor:
No, Herr Schnell does not want to shoot all railway workers in Berlin.

You misunderstand me. It was your chums in the DDR politbüro who were
prepared to shoot working class people who wanted to move to the west.

What has that to do with the current situation of the Berlin railway
workers? And the fact that your reactionary cothinker Herr Schnell sees
a need to drastically lower the living standard and working conditions
of those workers, in order to turn the Berlin S-Bahn into a proper
capitalistic profit generating company?

Please elaborate on the subject of discussion instead of constantly
trying to turn the attention of your public away from it by makeing loud
noises about off-topic issues?


L.W.

In article ,
(Graeme Wall) wrote:

On 02/01/2012 20:28, Wolfgang Schwanke wrote:
wrote in
:

IIRC, some of the trains from the East Berlin U-Bahn wound up in
revenue service on the Pyongyang Metro.

http://www.pyongyang-metro.com/

It's the fourth picture down when you click on the photos link.

Actually all rolling stock on the Pyongyang metro is from Berlin, but
there are two different types.

The box shaped ones are G stock, a narrow profile type made in East
Berlin in the 1970s/80s and still in service today:
http://www.berliner-verkehr.de/ufg.htm

The ones with the red/white livery are D stock, wide profile made in
West Berlin in the 1950s/60s. Some were transferred to East Berlin in
the late 1980s, and finally sold off to Korea in the 1990s.
http://www.berliner-verkehr.de/ufd.htm


Is there a good book in English about the Berlin S & U Bahns?

Didn't Capital Transport do one? They did on the Paris Metro.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Am 03.01.2012 00:58, schrieb Wolfgang Schwanke:
Lüko wrote

And you are trying to evade to understand what Herr Schnell is
proposing to destroy "the last socialistic company", as he wrote in his
own words,

And you agree with him, except you want to defend it? You're both
fools. The Berlin S-Bahn is not "a socialist company".

You may have noted that I use this "socialistic [sic] company" only
in quotes, first in order to make clear that I quote Herr Schnell, and
secondly in order to make clear that I do not use such a label.



Cheers,
L.W.

Am 02.01.2012 21:24, schrieb :
I thought that certain luxury goods were sold duty-free at
Alexanderplatz at kiosk that belonged to a East German trading company
(state-owned, of course). This really annoyed West German authorities,
and they would sometimes place Federal customs officers at stations with
the sole purpose of catching anybody carrying such goods purchased in
East Germany.

In 1987, the West German and West Berlin media (and authorities)
waged a big campaign against the GDR to force them to close the last
hole in the wall, and to act as a auxiliary police force of the West
Berlin cops.

People who landed at the Schönefeld airport and who had a transit
visa for the GDR could enter West Berlin via the Friedrichstraße
checkpoint. The West Berlin police did not want to establish their own
immigration control. They wanted the GDR border police to do it for
them. The Wessies detested the free travel across the Berlin wall...


L.W.