On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 21:40:24 -0500, Sancho Panza
wrote:

On 1/28/2012 9:37 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
Clark F wrote:
Basil wrote:
On 2012\01\28 05:08, Stephen Sprunk wrote:

Also, the two major freeways in the state are toll roads,

Unless I'm mistaken, the term "freeway" is only applied to roads which
are free to use. Tolled roads are called "turnpikes".

Freeway means limited access and no at grade intersections as opposed
to expressways which can have traffic lights and at grade
intersections.

. . . except where I live.

And the New York-New Jersey metropolitan region.


Ièm referring to what I recall as being the Manual for Uniform Traffic
Control devices definition where an expressway is a divided highway
with partial control of access as opposed to a freeway with full
control of access
(http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009/part1/part1a.htm). As a former
Illinois and New Jersey resident I am aware that the local definition
is different although saying that the limited access portions of NJ 3
or of US 22 in Union qualify as freeways may be a stretch. California
usage from what I have read on misc.transport.roads agrees with the
MUTCD.

Clark Morris

On 29-Jan-12 15:58, Clark F Morris wrote:
On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 21:40:24 -0500, Sancho Panza
wrote:
On 1/28/2012 9:37 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
Clark F wrote:
Basil wrote:
Unless I'm mistaken, the term "freeway" is only applied to roads which
are free to use. Tolled roads are called "turnpikes".

Freeway means limited access and no at grade intersections as opposed
to expressways which can have traffic lights and at grade
intersections.

. . . except where I live.

And the New York-New Jersey metropolitan region.

Ièm referring to what I recall as being the Manual for Uniform Traffic
Control devices definition where an expressway is a divided highway
with partial control of access as opposed to a freeway with full
control of access
(http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009/part1/part1a.htm).

Here is the relevant quote, for those too lazy to look it up:

"Section 1A.13 Definitions of Headings, Words, and Phrases in this Manual

Standard:
....
03 The following words and phrases, when used in this Manual, shall have
the following meanings:
....
71. Expressway—a divided highway with partial control of access.
....
77. Freeway—a divided highway with full control of access."



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